A new wind farm in Ross-shire has been proposed but may get vetoed by the NIMBYs. Go to http://www.ross-shirejournal.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/981/Vote_with_head,_wind_farm_chief_urges_planners.html and vote yes in the poll near the bottom right hand corner. This is exactly the kind of thing that's needed.
Vote to help wind farm get planning permission
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DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Voted!
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Why are there objections? I couldn't see what they were in that article. I voted in favour anyway.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
voted - 628 to 843 against at the moment
Not that I have a hope in hell of a sensible response, but
Out of curiosity, has anybody who just went ahead and reflexively voted for this even bothered to check out the arguments of the people who actually live there?
Or don't their views on what gets built right by their homes matter?
Out of curiosity, has anybody who just went ahead and reflexively voted for this even bothered to check out the arguments of the people who actually live there?
Or don't their views on what gets built right by their homes matter?
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
Aye that's why I voted no.
I loathe the wind farm built near us, especially after we were told it wouldn't be visible from where we are. One of the things I most admire about the sea is how we haven't managed to ruin it by building on it, and lo and behold what appeared to be an endless horizon touching the very edge of the world is now marred by an ugly mass which only got planning permission by lying about it.
I loathe the wind farm built near us, especially after we were told it wouldn't be visible from where we are. One of the things I most admire about the sea is how we haven't managed to ruin it by building on it, and lo and behold what appeared to be an endless horizon touching the very edge of the world is now marred by an ugly mass which only got planning permission by lying about it.
Yes, but presumably the people in those places should have some say in the process.soulman said:
It amazes me the number of lefty politicos who go on and on about localism and democracy, until a group of uppity country dwellers decide they'd rather not have a big fuck off wind farm or motorway ten minutes from their front door, then all of a sudden, they're a bunch of selfish NIMBYs who need to get with the times
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
Quite agree, we had one of the first single turbines down here next to the decomissioned power station at Richborough. You could have sited a field trough there and everyone would have liked them, probably explained why they put them out at sea and pissed thousands off...
In Bloom said:Yes, but presumably the people in those places should have some say in the process.
It amazes me the number of lefty politicos who go on and on about localism and democracy, until a group of uppity country dwellers decide they'd rather not have a big fuck off wind farm or motorway ten minutes from their front door, then all of a sudden, they're a bunch of selfish NIMBYs who need to get with the times
Yep it's all about dialogue. Personally I think the mersey estuary is a prime spot for wind turbines, as is the whole of Cheshire.
Just so long as it's not in your back yard, eh?soulman said:
We've already got wind turbines on Merseyside by the way, never really bothered me all that much. The point I'm making is that this smacks of a bunch of people who don't even know the area or the real issues at the heart of this particular communities objections to this wind farm coming in and telling these people that you all know best. Bet you're all fucking Southerners
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
I'm in Scotland. There's a big fuck off wind farm which I could see out of the window in front of me now if it wasn't dark and the curtains weren't drawn. I'm in favour of it.
The nimbys round here don't like it, though. It's on hills they occasionally glance at if they're at home before dark and there's nothing on the telly.
The nimbys round here don't like it, though. It's on hills they occasionally glance at if they're at home before dark and there's nothing on the telly.
danny la rouge said:
It's by no means a cut and dried argument. Wind energy as it is currently being devleoped is more about harvesting taxpayer subsidy via the 'fossil fuel levy' [the first green tax?] than developing a genuine alternative and sustainable energy supply.
IMHO of course.
The proliferation of wind farms owes more to the success of a particular lobby group than to the quality of the technology employed. In addition the success of the wind lobby in attracting most of the funding has meant that R and D on other forms of energy generation, for pv cells for instance, has been harder to come by. In my view there is a role for wind generation but it most certainly is not for main base power generation - it would be far better to have developed smaller scale turbines more suited to average windspeeds that are the norm than massive turbines which only generate power within narrow ranges, a lot of which is subsequently lost in transmission and current conversion.
It is a technology answer looking for the wrong question and has been very successful in convincing people that it is part of that answer to the question. In my view it needs to be married to smaller and cheaper forms of power storage so that it can be better exploited in a domestic or small scale environment. Wind power is brilliant for trickle charging systems that have other energy sources as the main power, or for back up emergency type systems.
Of course that would make for a kind of technology that would make people independent of the big energy producers, something that with increasing energy prices more and more people will be obliged to give serious thought to.
Just my tuppence worth - and I didn't vote in the poll.
Gra
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
That's true.davgraham said:
But I'd rather look at wind turbines than smoke stacks.
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
[pedant]local people by definition live near you[/pedant]JTG said:
danny la rouge
Ninja swords for all disabled people
Indeed.JTG said:
That's why shops aren't allow to label fruit and veg "local produce". It needs a country of origin.*
*Fact.
Not at all. I just raising my opinion, clearly stated as a personal one, to see if anyone agreed. It just confuses me how they are automatically given to be eye-sores when relatively few raise objections to new buildings nearby.
At the end of the day I believe there's a wider context to see them in; that is we NEED to stop CO2 emmissions, regardless of the cost because if we don't the cost is far far greater.
davgraham said:
Nice thoughtful post. If you haven't seen it already there's a discussion about wind and solar power in domestic environments here - http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=186754
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