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Vista to be discontinued?

But check the reader comments to that story. MS have a well-established track-record of making misleading public statements. And what Gates *actually* said was "Sometime in the next year or so we will have a new version."

Well, OK, next year or so could be 2009/10 or so. And "a new version" could be an alpha or beta version, meaning that serious release candidates are still a year or two off, even then.

You'd be unwise to bet your firm on seeing the replacement for Vista before 2011. And even then, it may not be exactly production ready.

Meanwhile Ubuntu is releasing every six months with the super-stable LTS releases every 18 months or so.
 
Maybe, but that's from January, and this is two weeks ago: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/04/07/bill_gates_windows_7/

And this is five days after that :

"Microsoft has finally officially confirmed that the three years started at Windows Vista's general availability release, which was January 30th, 2007. Obviously that doesn't mean will have Windows 7 on midnight of January 30th, 2010, but it does mean we can look forward to sometime within that year for a release."
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/13/microsoft-finally-confirms-windows-7-for-2010-launch/

But I'm not betting on MS getting it ready until at least 2011, maybe even to 2012. Get used to Vista, its going to be around for a while. (Or use Ubuntu, a different distro, OS X, or a pen)
 
I think Vista will come to be regarded as another Windows ME

TBH, ME was far, far worse than Vista. Pretty much everything from NT5 onwards has been plenty solid, and ME certainly wasn't. Most people just find Vista annoying rather than downright unusable.
 
I think when I get round to building my PC I'll just drop Ubuntui onto a USB stick and run the OS from there...when this will happen is, of course, another matter cos I've got a Bday&Glasto drugs bill AND a trip to beefa to pay for...
 
I think when I get round to building my PC I'll just drop Ubuntui onto a USB stick and run the OS from there...when this will happen is, of course, another matter cos I've got a Bday&Glasto drugs bill AND a trip to beefa to pay for...

Why...? :confused:
 
I'm after running Ubuntu on me laptop but the home IT tch says its to mucha hassle to synch it with the vpn she's setting up.
I'm to philistine to know if she's right or just obstinate.

Obstinate or lazy or frightened :) I connect to my work network using cisco vpn on ubuntu no problems. I use rdesktop to manage our Win 2003 servers. If it wasn't for mmc I would not even need windows on my work laptop and I am a sys admin. My home machine has been windows free for a couple of years. It even passes the wife test :D

Ubuntu or SUSE are fairly straight forward for Windows people to get their heads around. SUSE integrates easily into a Windows environment.
Linux is the way forward my friends.
 
[QUOTI'm after running Ubuntu on me laptop but the home IT tch says its to mucha hassle to synch it with the vpn she's setting up.
I'm to philistine to know if she's right or just obstinate.

Obstinate or lazy or frightened :) I connect to my work network using cisco vpn on ubuntu no problems. I use rdesktop to manage our Win 2003 servers. If it wasn't for mmc I would not even need windows on my work laptop and I am a sys admin. My home machine has been windows free for a couple of years. It even passes the wife test :D

Ubuntu or SUSE are fairly straight forward for Windows people to get their heads around. SUSE integrates easily into a Windows environment.
Linux is the way forward my friends.[/quote]

them two. She's a technician for a university and tho her specifics is hardware she does a bit of network and software stuff.

However, none of this involves linux. And she wants a quick easy something-she-already-knows-how-to-do setup.

People think living with or being mates with IT techs mean your computer is readily fixable. Most of the cunts don't want to look at a problem PC after work, they're too busy torrenting bullshit and playing crappy games.
 
Obstinate or lazy or frightened :) I connect to my work network using cisco vpn on ubuntu no problems. I use rdesktop to manage our Win 2003 servers. If it wasn't for mmc I would not even need windows on my work laptop and I am a sys admin. My home machine has been windows free for a couple of years. It even passes the wife test :D

Ubuntu or SUSE are fairly straight forward for Windows people to get their heads around. SUSE integrates easily into a Windows environment.
Linux is the way forward my friends.

We connect Ubuntu boxes to the VPN at work with no problems. I can also use the VPN from home from my Ubuntu box fine. Admins who say Linux is incompatible with Windows-based (or other) infrastructure are either lazy or incompetent...

(Also, a lot of the Internet is now being served by Linux boxes...)
 
I unwittingly bought a laptop with Vista on it. I just didn't think at all until I got it home and switched it on.

I am absolutely gutted with the thing. It keeps freezing and the screen fades to white. In addition its bloated with crap I don't need. It has a very stupid finger print scanner that I don't use but am unable to take off with out it throwing up loads of errors when ever I reboot.

Also I now get a tonne of other errors thrown up on boot up which I have looked for fixes on the internet but have not found anything.

I hate Vista with a passion and am seriously thinking about doing a system restore and partitioning my hard drive and putting XP back on. People slate XP all the time but it is infinitely better than the piece of shit that is Vista. :mad:
 
Which Ubuntu 7...? Do you mean 7.04 or 7.10...? There's now a just been released 08.04 which fixes bugs. The next release will directly tackle mobile computing....
It was 7.04. Hardware compatibility seems to be the weakness at the mo - if they can sort that then they're onto a winner.
 
I hate Vista with a passion and am seriously thinking about doing a system restore and partitioning my hard drive and putting XP back on. People slate XP all the time but it is infinitely better than the piece of shit that is Vista. :mad:

Laptop manufacturers adding loads of crappy demo software and crappy drivers is a totally seperate issue, and has happened for years. Everyone who can just does a clean install and adds back what they need manually - buying from a good manufacturer rather than eg Acer also helps.

There's not much wrong with Vista - I've been using it for over a year, and now have it installed on three machines with very little drama. The problem is most users are unwillling to learn anything new whatsoever, and unlike the 98 - xp transition, there's not enough benefit in Vista to encourage them. This is equally why the idea that Linux is about to gain marketshare in the form of J6P windows users is so misguided.
 
It was 7.04. Hardware compatibility seems to be the weakness at the mo - if they can sort that then they're onto a winner.

Always a good idea to give the latest a go since they're always being improved... :D

just wondering... what difference does it make to the average user if M$ stop supporting an OS?

Not much. Xp will still work, it will just get harder + harder to get new software that will run on it. You'd also have to rely on warez versions to install, though. TBH, unless you're a huge business, when Microsoft EOL an o/s means nothing. (Ie, big business's are the only people who get decent support direct from Microsoft)
 
Good. I've used all their OSs since Windows 3, and while there are always teething problems, Vista has been the biggest disaster I've ever come across in terms of flakiness.

I have to agree with you there. I've just tried installing a neighbour's printer and Vista is telling me that the drivers are "incompatible". I tried downloading them from the manufacturer's site and it still hasn't worked. I hate fucking Vista.
 
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