pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
does this translate as 'don't let the door bang you on the arse on the way out'?
Let's be hospitable and not keep them out of England any longer than they need maybe?
Visiting Scotland. What should I do?
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Let's be hospitable and not keep them out of England any longer than they need maybe?
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
Dunfermline.. The Palace ruins and Abbey are right next to the Glen park.. There's a few nice wee places in the Glen like the Main House with it's costume displays.. An Aviery and peacocks wandering around.. A hothouse with a tropical section and gardens.. A walk down the natural valley takes you along the base of the ruined palace... A restaurant/bar/indoor/outdoor venue area that is so quaint..
Well worth a visit for a day..
I miss this part of Dunfermline....
It has quite a history and a surprising amount of kings and queens buried there..
Perth and Pitlochry are withing easy driving distance of the Central Grangrmouth area for day trips..
Well worth a visit for a day..
I miss this part of Dunfermline....
It has quite a history and a surprising amount of kings and queens buried there.. Perth and Pitlochry are withing easy driving distance of the Central Grangrmouth area for day trips..
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
Is it maybe your relatives that give you this impression of Scotland rather than the actual country or people...
If thats the way you feel though.. then It'll probably rain for your whole visit and really put a damper on it.........
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
Is it maybe your relatives that give you this impression of Scotland rather than the actual country or people...
If thats the way you feel though.. then It'll probably rain for your whole visit and really put a damper on it.........
It usually does.
I have to go through the whole anti-English thing while I am there. Last time I was told that it was really great that the floods in England where doing so much damage to England and how it served the English right for being such fuckwits. This from a total stranger in a chip shop who had heard my accent. What was even worse was that the other five people in the chip shop were nodding in agreement.
I listen to the talk about how the chocolate's have taken over whole parts of the country, and how the Paki at the end of the road was allright 'even though he's a Paki'.
I fucking hate my visits there. Luckily something has come up in the last couple of days that mean that I might not be able to get there at all this year.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
Jesus. Where is this? I've lived here my whole life and that certainly does not reflect my experience.
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
'I've lived here my whole life' sums it up though doesn't it? You are presumably Scottish so are not likely to be the victim of anti-Englishness.
My wife is Scottish and she would agree with me about my experience, she has seen it, and since she has lived in England long enough to lose her Scottish accent she too finds people being rude to her in shops and sometimes in the street.
Where is it? E Lothian just outside Edinburgh.
IF I have to go this year I will try to get to Glasgow, there the people are genuinely much friendlier, and the people more interested in you as a person.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I'm Scottish but my dad is from Shrewsbury, he's lived here, also in East Lothian, for nearly 40 years, his Mum and dad moved up here for 20 years before they died, my best pal is from Manchester and moved here (the Borders) with her family 6 years ago and none of them have ever experienced anything like that. I'm not trying to say you're being untruthful, just that it's not representative of the country as a whole.
Frankie Jack
Not a bloke..
I recognise that attitude Dessiato and know there are some people with that shitty mentality.. Thankfully it's not like that everywhere.. My son ran that gauntlet when we moved to a small village in Fife as he had an English accent... Starting secondary school was a nightmare for him.. He moved back down south to live with his father as he couldn't handle the shit and it was changing his laid back and happy nature..
Honestly we're not all like that.. There are arseholes everywhere.. Just depends on which arseholes bias you are dealing with..
Honestly we're not all like that.. There are arseholes everywhere.. Just depends on which arseholes bias you are dealing with..
It's exactly that attitude I encounter whenever I go back to Scotland, just because I don't have the right accent. Bus drivers, taxi drivers, random people in shops: dreadful attitudes. I've even had people suddenly change their attitude to me when my brother's wandered up and they've realised I must be Scottish and therefore all right after all: suddenly they become all friendly. I loathe every time I have to visit. If my family (who are lovely) weren't there, I'd never return.
inflatable jesus
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
The anti-English thing is pretty stupid. But then, there are stupid people everywhere.
I've heard plenty of people complaining about the cold and unfriendly English and singing the praises of the warm and welcoming Scots. Everyone's experience is going to be different and I think it's probably a little bit silly to be making judgments about entire countries.
I've heard plenty of people complaining about the cold and unfriendly English and singing the praises of the warm and welcoming Scots. Everyone's experience is going to be different and I think it's probably a little bit silly to be making judgments about entire countries.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
If you're looking for nice scenery and that sort of thing...my standard advice is fairly simple: head as far north and west as time allows. Not only is the landscape more dramatic and beautiful but it is less over-run with coach parties and the like. *If* you've got the time (and as others have said, don't underestimate how long it takes to get places on winding single track roads), then disregard everything south of the Great Glen and head north. Around Torridon and Ullapool is great if you like bleak and rocky. If you want more densely packed mountains and sea-lochs, then the mainland near to Skye (loch hourn or loch nevis for example: make a trip to knoydart which although on the mainland you can only get to by boat or by waking in). Skye of course and any of the small isles. And if you can manage it, a trip to the outer isles for the most spectacular beaches in Europe (on the right day).
If you've only got a week and want to show someone the best of Scotland, landscape-wise, forget about the east coast - concentrate on the west and the islands.
superdodgy
Life's weird, so am I
Just stay out of Greenock, then you'll probably be fine.
inflatable jesus
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
Greenock was never high on my list. If I wanted to see Ken-Loach's Scotland I could just stay in Grangemouth.
How long have you been back in the Netherlands? I think I remember you talking about moving to Paisley last.
We're old skool, you and me.
How long have you been back in the Netherlands? I think I remember you talking about moving to Paisley last.
We're old skool, you and me.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Greenock was never high on my list. If I wanted to see Ken-Loach's Scotland I could just stay in Grangemouth.
There is some nice country within easy reach of Greenock though. The firth of Clyde and its islands, plus the not so high but still beautiful areas like Arrochar and Cowal. Even a stroll up the Gryfe way can give some splendid views.
at english people getting a hard time
if i meet you i'll be extra nice to compensate.
TBH I've never experienced it in Scotland, although I haven't spent a huge amount of time there. Had more 'anti English' vibes in Wales tbh...
I've got an English friend who is a bit of a comical pompous twit to boot, like the very worst stereotype of English people, who's thinking of moving to Scotland from China. I might have to advise him it mightn't be a great idea.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
This ^^
I got crap in England for being scottish, I know of english folk who have had crap and english folk who haven't. I think it depends on who you encounter and how you behave tbh.
You get morons and bigots in EVERY nationality.
