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Bob_the_lost said:
Bollocks they don't. Have you even looked at the other offerings around? :rolleyes:
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Well ok majority of the big guns, I'm in a cabled area, I'm going to pick cable over ADSL any day of the week. :)
 
adenewton said:
Well ok majority of the big guns, I'm in a cabled area, I'm going to pick cable over ADSL any day of the week. :)
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Again, bollocks they don't. I'll make just as wild an assertion and say that most of the big guns offer unlimited downloads on their higher packages at the least.

My cable service is expensive and slow for the price, now they're throttling it, the only reason that i'm not on ADSL is the crap aluminium wiring in the local area.
 
adenewton said:
If your that pissed off about it go to another ISP.

No other ISP at the end of the day will offer you what your after.

All the other's impose download quota's meaning you go over the quota you pay for the extra you download.

Virgin are using traffic throttling. Which for 90% of their customers won't be affected. The only way I could see anyone being affected is if your downloading shit loads of movies from bit-torrent.

I'm on a 20mb connection myself and been downloading stuff at over a 1mb a second this morning. That's good enough for me.

User's are only affected if they download over 3gb (for 20mb customers, it depends on what package your on) between the hours of 4pm and midnight.

If your into downloading ripped DVD's from bit-torrent, just do them outside these hours. Set it up before you go to bed or before you go to work. simple.

Compared to other ISP's i think this Fair Usage Policy is fair enough. I don't want my download speeds being restricted because other people in my area are taking the piss.
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do you own shares in or work for virgin? if not you've certainly swallowed their spin hook, line and sinker. Fair usage is a crock of shite. All it does is allows ISPs to advertise and offer speeds that are well beyond what their infrastructure can support.
 
KnickerlessCage said:
utter rubbish

https://www.bethere.co.uk/ for starters
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Good deal that. Can't be bothered to read the small print but i gather there's a fair useage policy somewhere to stop people taking the piss.


mr_eko said:
do you own shares in or work for virgin? if not you've certainly swallowed their spin hook, line and sinker. Fair usage is a crock of shite. All it does is allows ISPs to advertise and offer speeds that are well beyond what their infrastructure can support.
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No, i don't work for Virgin. However as i have to admin a lot of the services where i do work. When people take the piss and it affects the performance for other user's then you have to impliment a fair useage policy. I'm not going to bother going into detail.

fractionMan said:
unlimited != limited
Virgin broadband is limited.

debate over.
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What he said. sort of.
 
Bob_the_lost said:
My cable service is expensive and slow for the price, now they're throttling it, the only reason that i'm not on ADSL is the crap aluminium wiring in the local area.
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Ah, but wasn't there talk of BT Wholesale FTTC trials for exactly this reason ? I must have a dig and see if I can find owt.
 
Well, I can't be fucked to go round the merrygoround again, unlimited means downloads of data not the speed at which you download. Therefore there is no cap...

Anyway, this is a key quote from a piece which gives a clear idea of just how widespread this practice will be in future (unless things are sorted):

"The real issue that people are going to face, and are already noticing at home, is that ISPs are starting to cut back on the bandwidth that is available to people in their homes," said Mr Thompson. "They call it bandwidth shaping.

"They do this because they have a limited capacity to deliver to 100 or 200 homes, and if everybody's using the internet at the same time then the whole thing starts to get congested. Before that happens they cut back on the heavy users."
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[URL="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/6756899.stm]Link[/URL]
 
MC5 said:
If you haven't had an upgrade in your area, the volume on the cable remote will not work - it never has. Well, on mine it never has.

After the upgrade (which is remotely done, with no cost involved) it will. You might want to cut the power to the box and re-boot to see.

There is no scart out-put for audio on my box. It's two of those little stereo output thingys (one red and one white, like the ones on the back of your stereo amp), which I input into and play through my audio system.
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It's a newly installed box.... I called Delhi only to be told that I need to get codes for my remote from the TV manufacturers....Bollocks

When I tried to explain that it is still the same when I use an audio out to an amp... they are lost

I can understand it if its an old network but its newly installed...but this crap about needing codes ..tosh

But thats for replying everything else works fine just want a good signal to noise ratio
 
ade said:
Good deal that. Can't be bothered to read the small print but i gather there's a fair useage policy somewhere to stop people taking the piss.
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I've been a Be* subscriber since their launch, and I'm what would be described as a heavy user, and apart from a few early glitches when they were setting up, I've never had my download speeds throttled, get 19 meg down and have a healthy 1.3 meg upload speed. I can easily download a couple of hundred GB in a month and don't seem to have fallen foul of any fair usage policy.

Can't recommend them highly enough.
 
learydeary said:
It's a newly installed box.... I called Delhi only to be told that I need to get codes for my remote from the TV manufacturers....Bollocks

When I tried to explain that it is still the same when I use an audio out to an amp... they are lost

I can understand it if its an old network but its newly installed...but this crap about needing codes ..tosh

But thats for replying everything else works fine just want a good signal to noise ratio
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Bummer.

What about trying one of those generic remotes?

*dodges metaphorical flying object* :D
 
the loss of sky suckes, the annoying virgin branding pisses me the fuck off, and the yellow and black bar thing at the bottom is fuzzy, and i realy dont get what the fuck is on 120, is tv on demand but it has a fucking pin on it that i havent set, and i sware to watch on demand you have to pay extra? what a fucking load of bollox, ive had telewest from the start, when the little black box had a red led display on the front and the remote was square and was designd with a primitive 3d program that loves lines, then it was ok, now its gone down since virgin took over
 
tomvill said:
the loss of sky suckes, the annoying virgin branding pisses me the fuck off, and the yellow and black bar thing at the bottom is fuzzy, and i realy dont get what the fuck is on 120, is tv on demand but it has a fucking pin on it that i havent set, and i sware to watch on demand you have to pay extra? what a fucking load of bollox, ive had telewest from the start, when the little black box had a red led display on the front and the remote was square and was designd with a primitive 3d program that loves lines, then it was ok, now its gone down since virgin took over
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It's not just pissing you off! I work for Openreach installing BT phone lines. The amount of people switching to Sky from Cable is amazing! They usually swap their phone service back to BT at the same time to get the free Sky broadband. Can you really miss Sky1 that badly?? I only watch The Simpsons from time to time!
 
they just phoned me up and offered me a 120 channel tv package for a pound a month but did say i had to keep it for twelves months. can cancel at any time but they will want the outstanding balance all of twelve quid if i decide to cancel within that time frame. doesn't exactly sound like a bad deal to me. get me phone, bb and tv stuff sorted. got a free view box but the reception is shit hopefuly things will be better with a different virgin media digital box thingy.
don't like the sound of the fucked up volume control though or the problems with the remote :confused:
 
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