Virgin Media - Crap/Not Crap

Discussion in 'computers, web and general tech' started by UnderAnOpenSky, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    They keep blocking couchtuner, but I follow CTs twitter and it's back up in a few hours. I'm not sure what the endless blocking actually achieves.
     
  2. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    I think some people will give up and use an easier method like streaming. It's taken me bloody ages to explain to my partner about how to use the VPN.
     
  3. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

    Yeah..... Every year, like clockwork, I ring up, say I'm going to leave and get a discount.
     
  4. gentlegreen

    gentlegreen Bulla liberali in perpetuum.

    must be time for me to phone again.
    Last time they forced 50 megs and TIVO on me and I certainly never used the TIVO
     
  5. chandlerp

    chandlerp Well-Known Member

    I use a VPN to grab the torrent files. Then I start up my torrent client and load them in. Once you've got the .torrent or magnet link the VPN is unnecessary. I've got mine in modem mode and use an Asus router. Never had any issues aside from the price which is very high. I'm paying just under £90 for two tivo boxes, phone line and broadband.
     
  6. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

    You can go broadband only now..... but its not much cheap tbh.

    If it was say half price I'd be on broadband only, get an hd freeview record and a now tv subscription (I like discovery channel, and I want to check out viceland when it launches).
     
  7. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    When I tried to get broadband only they got round it by saying that the broadband costs X, but if you get a landline then we have an offer to make it cheaper, making sure that not getting the phone line as well is more expensive.

    I got the phone line as well and just didn't plug a phone in, never bothered me except recently when the bb went down and I couldn't phone them to shout at them.
     
  8. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

    When I looked into it, I think it was £6 cheaper than having my phone and TV package..... so I just stuck with what I've got.

    I do use the recorder a lot tbh.
     
  9. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Not crap, but you pay a premium.
     
  10. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Who would you consider to be as good, but cheaper cybershot?

    Just thinking more about what people have said about the router. In what way is it pants? I'm planning on running an internal network through it, so it does need to work. Last time I had an ISP I bought my own so not to get tied into a contract...would I see any advantage to running it in modem only mode and connecting to my D Link?
     
  11. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    How much do you pay for your VPN?
     
  12. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    If you don't want major speed loss get a standalone dedicated server and set up transmission remote and open vpn. and cygwin that shit in windows from the command line.
     
  13. dervish

    dervish if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble

    The newer superhub is supposed to be better than the old one, but that's not saying much, the first superhub was the worst router I have ever used. It went into modem mode and I used my draytek from then on, when I got upgraded to the SH2 it was supposed to be a lot better, it was but really not by much, they signal is terrible. I could be standing in front of it and getting a better signal from the draytek which was in the other room.

    The useability is terrible, there were major features missing (like working port forwarding for example) and the security was crap (doesn't accept spaces or special characters in the admin password) my one kept dropping the connection. I changed the SH2 to modem mode and reboot it every couple of months or so now.
     
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  14. stdP

    stdP I never learn.

    I'm in a dwelling with a dreaded "Exchange Only" line which basically means Virgin's my only choice for speeds much above dialup - a shame since I used to use the really rather awesome DSL wholesalers Xilo who do pretty awesome office/enthusiast-oriented packages (not as geeky as A&A, but nowhere near as pricey either). Their support was equally as good as Zen's (another great ISP).

    So I'm saddled with virgin basically, but I purchase a business line; it's basically the same product as the consumer one but with no apparent throttling, half-decent support (no foreign call centre the one time I had cause to use it) and no-one bitching because you've been actually using the bandwidth you pay for - all at a cost of course, fifty odd squid a month and a minimum 2yr contract. Once you stick their shitty router into modem mode and use a proper router, it's perfectly bearable. Bandwidth is good but latency still leaves much to be desired compared to my previous ADSL.

    For those interested in, er, alternative delivery methods, I'll echo dialectician's comments that not much beats a dedicated server running transmission-daemon. Whilst you're at it, run your own DNS on the same box and configure it to peer with someone like Level 3 and you can avoid many of those stupid DNS-based blocks as well (and improve your lookup times).

    There's an echo in here! :) Still using a draytek although I'm building a pfsense box to replace it with.
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2016
  15. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    They were ok until they took over, I think it was NTL, and then it all went to shit. Their customer service is mind-bogglingly, homicide-inducingly awful. Any time my internet went down and I rang them up they would just deny it was anything to do with them. At times I was without internet for weeks. Then eventually you'd accidentally get put through to someone with a clue who would admit actually it was their fault and switch you back on again. WEEKS!!!!111!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    I left when they sold me to TalkTalk without asking me.

    Edited because I've also just remembered this major fuck-up: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/virgin-media-debacle.322855/#post-13072519
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2016
  16. oneflewover

    oneflewover Following "The Tigers"

    It comes as a package with my newsgroup subscription which is in dollars so getting more expensive. About £20/month now
     
  17. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    get a dedicated server, cheaper.
     
  18. Wolveryeti

    Wolveryeti Young Lethargio

    Literally everything (website, customer service, router) is shit apart from the download speeds which on fibre are pretty decent. And I haven't noticed much obvious throttling despite doing mucho torrenting.

    The customer service is proper shite. As in: the left arse cheek doesn't know what the right arse cheek is doing. I had fibre installed recently and asked if they would bring a new router to the fitting. They said they would. They did not. Lucky I had a spare one lying around which worked.
     
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2016
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  19. Ranbay

    Ranbay The same rules apply

    This running 6TB deicated server for £29 a month with plex on it and everything is seeded hosted of that.
     
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  20. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Thing is that's a fair bit to pay on top of a decent Internet connection. Worth if you watch loads of stuff I guess, but I can't really justify it.
     
  21. Ranbay

    Ranbay The same rules apply

    Not when other people can stream from it.......... :hmm::thumbs:
     
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  22. oneflewover

    oneflewover Following "The Tigers"

    Don't know what that is. Link, more info?
     
  23. oneflewover

    oneflewover Following "The Tigers"

    And I could do with that
     
  24. Ranbay

    Ranbay The same rules apply

    nothing at all. move along.
     
  25. oneflewover

    oneflewover Following "The Tigers"

    The feature, not from you. Would not presume.
     
  26. Ranbay

    Ranbay The same rules apply

    The feture of other people streaming from your server? well it would mean people could stream from your server and assit you with the running costs.

    if you are paying £20 a month for what a VPN and some newsgroup access? for a little more you could host everything out there in the WWW or for less with a smaller server.
     
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  27. oneflewover

    oneflewover Following "The Tigers"

    Could you give a few more details - links?
     
  28. Ranbay

    Ranbay The same rules apply

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  29. dialectician

    dialectician The Main Enemy is at home.

    It's basically a box in a remote location. plenty of deals if you look online. I use OVH who have machines based in france. You'll have to build it from the ground up though. I use ubuntu linux and the terminal for all my activity, so if you're not familiar with text based commands setting it up might be a bit difficult.

    I'd be happy to set up transmission and vpn for you if I'm around but it probably won't be very easy to intuit if you're not dealing with it on your own.
     
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  30. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    There are plenty of companies offering seedboxes which don't require that if your willing to pay for them.
     

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