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Violence Against Police in the UK

i'd be interested to know what examples of senseless violence the Christian Man has in mind.
 
winterinmoscow said:
Very often, the police claim they got heavy handed because the situation demanded it, and the other side of the story is that the police aggravted the situation.


Personally speaking I don't think the police are anywhere near violent enough.
Time after time there have been instances where the excuse the police have used the excuse:- "we took no action for fear of provoking a public order incident"
Excuse me Chief Constable the crowd of unruly morons you would not take action against were breaking the law as enacted by a democratically elected government and pissing of the resident population. I don't give a shit if you cause a serious public order incident, arrest the fuckers, if they resist beat the bastards into submission.
 
tobyjug said:
Personally speaking I don't think the police are anywhere near violent enough.
Time after time there have been instances where the excuse the police have used the excuse:- "we took no action for fear of provoking a public order incident"
Excuse me Chief Constable the crowd of unruly morons you would not take action against were breaking the law as enacted by a democratically elected government and pissing of the resident population. I don't give a shit if you cause a serious public order incident, arrest the fuckers, if they resist beat the bastards into submission.

That was policing as I remember in the 60's and 70's. 'Hammer' McNee and all that. Many people who suffered beatings from the police were not carrying out serious public order offences, but more than likely just having a good night out at the weekend. Using violence to control people didn't work then and wont work now.
 
MC5 said:
That was policing as I remember in the 60's and 70's. 'Hammer' McNee and all that. Many people who suffered beatings from the police were not carrying out serious public order offences, but more than likely just having a good night out at the weekend. Using violence to control people didn't work then and wont work now.


I am sorry to dissappoint you but keeping the residents of an area awake for three nights running for a 10 mile radius around a Viper sound system warrants the plod taking some serious action. If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.
 
tobyjug said:
If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.

Would give the WAH pilots a bit of practice :D
 
tobyjug said:
I am sorry to dissappoint you but keeping the residents of an area awake for three nights running for a 10 mile radius around a Viper sound system warrants the plod taking some serious action. If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.

If it was down to you you'd miss.

Why not just call out environmental health, to either get them to turn it down and if they refuse confiscate their equipment?
 
Bigdavalad said:
Well that's no fun, is it?

That advice was a non-aggressive alternative for the missile toting tobyjug. :D

Me? I'd go round and invite myself in. Haven't been to a blues for years.
 
MC5 said:
If it was down to you you'd miss.

Why not just call out environmental health, to either get them to turn it down and if they refuse confiscate their equipment?


Ha fucking ha. The police will not escort the environmental health officer:- "for fear of provoking a public order incident". (This supposes it is possible to find an EHO who will come out outside of office hours)
 
MC5 said:
If it was down to you you'd miss.


That just show how little you know about missile guidance systems. It is relatively easy to modify a missile guidance system to home in on a sound/vibration source, especially a low frequency vibration.
 
tobyjug said:
Ha fucking ha. The police will not escort the environmental health officer:- "for fear of provoking a public order incident". (This supposes it is possible to find an EHO who will come out outside of office hours)

The first part of your example isn't in quotes and the second part is?

Could it be you've made it up?

I suspect EHO's are short on the ground. I remember when the party you support was in government - these posts were severely cut-back.

Delighted to see you enjoyed the hilarity at the start of my post.
 
tobyjug said:
That just show how little you know about missile guidance systems. It is relatively easy to modify a missile guidance system to home in on a sound/vibration source, especially a low frequency vibration.

Sorry, didn't realise I was speaking to such an expert on the subject. Do you work for NATO? Or, is it Netto's?
 
MC5 said:
The first part of your example isn't in quotes and the second part is?

Could it be you've made it up?

I suspect EHO's are short on the ground. I remember when the party you support was in government - these posts were severely cut-back.

Delighted to see you enjoyed the hilarity at the start of my post.


I have lost count of the number of times the plod have been quoted in the local press as stating:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".
I have been a life long Labour supporter, and when and if we ever get a labour party back I will support it.
 
tobyjug said:
I have lost count of the number of times the plod have been quoted in the local press as stating:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".
I have been a life long Labour supporter, and when and if we ever get a labour party back I will support it.

You'll find it happens, but is rare.

'get the labour party back'? From what, to where?
 
tobyjug said:
I have lost count of the number of times the plod have been quoted in the local press as stating:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".

I've letit slide a while but: Tobyjug bullshiting about contents of "local press" shocker! :D
 
Isambard said:
I've letit slide a while but: Tobyjug bullshiting about contents of "local press" shocker! :D

Laugh away, I get very angry when the local plod are too fucking scared to sort a situation out and use the excuse:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".
Well Chief Constable, there already was a public order incident it is your job to stop it. Your officers get paid a lot fucking more than most people in Cornwall. Order them to get the pepper spray and extended batons out and get stuck in.
 
tobyjug said:
Laugh away, I get very angry when the local plod are too fucking scared to sort a situation out and use the excuse:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".
Well Chief Constable, there already was a public order incident it is your job to stop it. Your officers get paid a lot fucking more than most people in Cornwall. Order them to get the pepper spray and extended batons out and get stuck in.

The plod ain't too scarred,they just can't be arsed. If it where somewhere nice and posh they would sort it out.
Or it could be the voices in your head, Toby, and you are truely as mad and stupid as you sound.

Your as full of it, as the swp'ers round here. if the police kept uping the anti, like you reakon they should, the country would end up like Iraq(or maybe saudi if you where lucky), and next time there was a riot you'd propose nuking bradford/tottenham or wherever.
 
tobyjug said:
I am sorry to dissappoint you but keeping the residents of an area awake for three nights running for a 10 mile radius around a Viper sound system warrants the plod taking some serious action. If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.

Whats a Viper soundsystem?
 
Blagsta said:
Whats a Viper soundsystem?


A very high output soundsystem with 28 speakers, usually carried on an old army surplus 4 wheel drive lorry. Can cause noise complaints from up to 10 miles away and also damage buildings.
 
james_walsh said:
The plod ain't too scarred,they just can't be arsed. .


Bollocks they are load of wimps. They got beaten by group of teenage girls in Torbay last weekend who "liberated" someone who had been arrested.
 
tobyjug said:
A very high output soundsystem with 28 speakers, usually carried on an old army surplus 4 wheel drive lorry. Can cause noise complaints from up to 10 miles away and also damage buildings.

Yes of course it is toby.
 
a Viper sound system appears to be some sort of car radio. At least according to Google, although there is one intruiging hit about travellers camps and Bedford lorries, from a post by one Tobyjug on something called urban75
 
newbie said:
a Viper sound system appears to be some sort of car radio.


You won't find info on a Viper sound system on the Internet as it is not a manufactured for sale item. It was used at "music" festivals and illegal raves back in the 1990s. Whenever Megadog had anything to do with an open air event a Viper sound system was bound to turn up and piss of the residents for miles around.
It is the main reason if Michael Dog ever shows his face in Cornwall again he risks being hung from the nearest tree.
 
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