winterinmoscow said:Very often, the police claim they got heavy handed because the situation demanded it, and the other side of the story is that the police aggravted the situation.
tobyjug said:Personally speaking I don't think the police are anywhere near violent enough.
Time after time there have been instances where the excuse the police have used the excuse:- "we took no action for fear of provoking a public order incident"
Excuse me Chief Constable the crowd of unruly morons you would not take action against were breaking the law as enacted by a democratically elected government and pissing of the resident population. I don't give a shit if you cause a serious public order incident, arrest the fuckers, if they resist beat the bastards into submission.
MC5 said:That was policing as I remember in the 60's and 70's. 'Hammer' McNee and all that. Many people who suffered beatings from the police were not carrying out serious public order offences, but more than likely just having a good night out at the weekend. Using violence to control people didn't work then and wont work now.

tobyjug said:If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.

tobyjug said:I am sorry to dissappoint you but keeping the residents of an area awake for three nights running for a 10 mile radius around a Viper sound system warrants the plod taking some serious action. If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.
MC5 said:If it was down to you you'd miss.
Why not just call out environmental health, to either get them to turn it down and if they refuse confiscate their equipment?
Bigdavalad said:Well that's no fun, is it?
butchersapron said:Times have moved on ...a 'blues' nowadays...
MC5 said:If it was down to you you'd miss.
Why not just call out environmental health, to either get them to turn it down and if they refuse confiscate their equipment?
MC5 said:If it was down to you you'd miss.
tobyjug said:Ha fucking ha. The police will not escort the environmental health officer:- "for fear of provoking a public order incident". (This supposes it is possible to find an EHO who will come out outside of office hours)
tobyjug said:That just show how little you know about missile guidance systems. It is relatively easy to modify a missile guidance system to home in on a sound/vibration source, especially a low frequency vibration.
MC5 said:The first part of your example isn't in quotes and the second part is?
Could it be you've made it up?
I suspect EHO's are short on the ground. I remember when the party you support was in government - these posts were severely cut-back.
Delighted to see you enjoyed the hilarity at the start of my post.
tobyjug said:I have lost count of the number of times the plod have been quoted in the local press as stating:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".
I have been a life long Labour supporter, and when and if we ever get a labour party back I will support it.
tobyjug said:I have lost count of the number of times the plod have been quoted in the local press as stating:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".

Isambard said:I've letit slide a while but: Tobyjug bullshiting about contents of "local press" shocker!![]()
butchersapron said:Have you ever killed a man tobes?
tobyjug said:Order them to get the pepper spray and extended batons out and get stuck in.
Have you ever killed a child?tobyjug said:I have come very very close to it.
tobyjug said:Laugh away, I get very angry when the local plod are too fucking scared to sort a situation out and use the excuse:- "we did not want to provoke a public order incident".
Well Chief Constable, there already was a public order incident it is your job to stop it. Your officers get paid a lot fucking more than most people in Cornwall. Order them to get the pepper spray and extended batons out and get stuck in.
tobyjug said:I am sorry to dissappoint you but keeping the residents of an area awake for three nights running for a 10 mile radius around a Viper sound system warrants the plod taking some serious action. If it was down to me a helicopter gunship with missiles to take out the sound system would be a welcome start and get a lot of support from the residents.
Blagsta said:Whats a Viper soundsystem?
james_walsh said:The plod ain't too scarred,they just can't be arsed. .
tobyjug said:A very high output soundsystem with 28 speakers, usually carried on an old army surplus 4 wheel drive lorry. Can cause noise complaints from up to 10 miles away and also damage buildings.
newbie said:a Viper sound system appears to be some sort of car radio.