Vinyl Is Poised to Outsell CDs For the First Time Since 1986

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by editor, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:16 PM.

  1. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Yes that's what I assumed too. You would need to factor in the cost of making the flippin' computers it gets stored on though I guess.

    But a petrochemical product which is extracted from the ground, transported to a factory, stamped into a record, wrapped in bits of dead tree and then flown around the world is hardly going to be good for the environment is it...

    This study about the environmental aspect of streaming gave me pause for thought though:
    Streaming music is worse for the environment than CDs, vinyl: study
     
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  2. 8115

    8115 Macaroni straws.

    I love CDs. When you say streaming do you mean a pay service like Spotify or something else and if so, what?

    Would a normal laptop with a better speaker plugged in be adequate to listen to streamed music?

    I'm asking because I love my CDs but they do take up space and tbf I don't listen to them that often.
     
  3. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

    played off CDJ's as usual in Ireland for my annual old fart gig in Jan, local lad who came on after me, as well being admirably off his head, played off vinyl, and I was genuinely taken aback by the contrast in sound - old cliches, but the increase in warmth, range and depth was just...obvious.

    I never feel like I'm short changing playing wavs off CDR ( and mixing (averagely, as ever) ), but I totally get why DJs in some better clubs still go with vinyl, it's not just hipster fetishism ( tho also sympathise with the youngsters having a twitter spat with warhorse Trev Jackson re: format elitism etc this week, and how ridiculous it would be for anyone to expect youngsters Dj's trying to stay afloat in this day and age to be worrying about £8.00 12"s )
     
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  4. rutabowa

    rutabowa LOSE IT

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  5. pinkychukkles

    pinkychukkles Feed Your Head

    Good points. Having built up an approximate 5k record collection over the past 25+ years and now, reluctantly and slowly, getting rid of it, after staunchly being vinyl-only for so long because Vinyl Sounds Better Than Any Other Format… well, along with having long ceased DJing and even then, not on huge systems, well with my middle-aged ears now am I going to notice any difference? I ask myself.

    Sure, there's a bit of confirmation bias thinking here in that, since I'm selling my vinyl, I'm scrabbling around for anything to make my decision more palatable to myself! :D
     
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  6. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I used to play vinyl, but given the extremely wide range of music demanded at the gigs I do, I'd need a forklift to bring sufficient vinyl to cover all eventualities. I still prefer CDs to laptops partly because my badly organised collection means that I can't always find the tracks I'm looking for in time and that means I can't coast a gig - and my last minute "fuck I'll play this!" selection proves to be a better choice.

    Plus scrolling around on a laptop usually looks crap unless the DJ makes some effort.
     
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  7. pinkychukkles

    pinkychukkles Feed Your Head

    Yeah, true but I simply don't have the luxury of time to compare which sounds best and if it's the vinyl, rip & keep that over the CD version. At the moment, I assume all CD FLAC rips will be as good as a FLAC ripped off the vinyl itself.

    WEB FLACs are a different story though… I've had to educate myself on generating and interpreting spectrograms for any WEB FLACs I get to spot any lossless ones that are transcodes of lossy masters, it doesn't happen a lot but it's frequent enough to be a concern.
     
  8. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    There was something a little special in the past about not being able to play a song if you didn't have a copy. My daughter really can't see the point of having a physical copy of anything, but for me it's too deeply routed.
    She actually wrote me / the tooth fairy a letter that I read this morning, that asked me to stop wasting money on records (and guitars).
     
  9. killer b

    killer b Minimum Waste / Maximum Joy

    this is what childhood rebellion looks like in 2019. my eldest is always telling me to turn that racket down.
     
  10. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Yeah, mine too. Poo.
    I put a record on in the front room to wash up or cook too, and my daughter will just turn it down.
    Bit disappointing, but the music she likes is b b b b boring. . . . Or abba.

    Or the flash Gordon soundtrack (because it has the talking dog song from the flash liquid advert on it)
     
  11. cantsin

    cantsin Well-Known Member

    don't spend any time in clubs now ( havent for ages ), but I get the impression that laptops are frowned upon / looked down on in some places ?
     
  12. pesh

    pesh Well-Known Member

    Finding a tune on laptop doesn't take more than a second or 2... Start typing into the search box and off you go... If its taking you longer than flipping through a massive CD wallet then something has gone horribly wrong.
     
  13. rutabowa

    rutabowa LOSE IT

    I suspect that he is fairly experience in both those ways and made the decision based on that...

    me personally I don't want to be looking at a screen when i'm djing, + I have bad eyesight and it tires me, and that's even before you take into account getting totally wasted.
     
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  14. pesh

    pesh Well-Known Member

    I have been known to have to shut one eye to successfully navigate Serato :facepalm:
     
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  15. editor

    editor hiraethified

    You're missing the point completely. I don't like the fact I can find and get the next song ready in 2 seconds on a laptop. I like the random alternative choices that are sometimes introduced when I'm desperately trying to find a song on a CD. Plus there's a bit more theatre and movement involved.
     
  16. pesh

    pesh Well-Known Member

    You're right, I was totally missing your point, I thought you ment your laptops music library was all over the place...

    Genuine lol at the theatre of loading a CD though :D
     
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  17. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Not the loading, the flapping through the CD libraries, with the odd CD making a break for it towards the crowd. Not as exciting to watch as vinyl of course, but sheer white knuckle cinema compared to clicking a mouse and the sitting around for the song to end.

    Of course the best bit about not having a laptop is that people can't assume that you're able to instantly download whatever shitty request it is they're demanding,
     
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  18. 8115

    8115 Macaroni straws.

    Have you got anything by Timberland?
     
  19. 8ball

    8ball Resident Right-Winger

    I used to have some shoes.
     
  20. ATOMIC SUPLEX

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Yeah I used to like them. Light brown timberlands for good, and high top white hi techs for play.
     
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