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'veggies' who eat fish

tarannau said:
FFS. How difficult is it for you to say 'I only eat fish (and marmite)' and get it over and done with. There's noone to blame but yourself - there's no need to hide under a vegetarian banner and blame the lack of understanding on others.
Yes there is.

I haven't eaten meat in 13 years. Do you have any idea the number of times ones dietary preferences are questioned?

EastEnder: I'm veggie.
Random person: OK.

or

EastEnder: I don't eat meat but I do eat fish.
Random person: Oh, why's that? Don't like the taste of meat? Allergic to it? What? Why? Tell me, tell me, tell me!!!!!!

If I could have a cast iron guarantee that people would just accept my choices without feeling the need to launch a full scale interrogation, then I would happily say merely "I don't eat meat".

See, it's quite simple really.

:cool:
 
PieEye said:
They are mammals you berks.

What's wrong with a big mammal, especially when it tries to look so hard to look and act like a fish? Pescetarianist!
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Besides, everyone knows that Canned tuna only contains about 70% fish. Another 20% is made up of ground up dolphins, asylum seekers and stowaways, whilst the other 10% is made up of condomage, seaweed and fecal matter caught up in the driftnets.

Apart from Ortiz that is. That stuff is a cut above.

;)
 
Desperately....trying...to...think...of...Seal...pun... :(

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EastEnder said:
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If I could have a cast iron guarantee that people would just accept my choices without feeling the need to launch a full scale interrogation, then I would happily say merely "I don't eat meat".

See, it's quite simple really.

:cool:

lol
 
Onket said:
I worked with one who claimed eating fish was ok because before they are killed they are free. I didn't understand that at all.

By that logic it is ok to eat all meat that is free range including fish caught from the open seas or rivers but NOT intensively farmed fish.

I'm a pesky piscetarian pisshead, but I would struggle to maintain a sustained moral argument for eating fish as against other meat. Fish stocks - huge problem. Fish farms - spreading disease and parasites amongst wild fish and with conditions to rival any other form of intensive farming.

I was vegetarian but I missed eating fish is all. Not felt inclined to start eating other meat. If I did I would eat organic free range only. I'd like to be more careful about the fish I eat but Morrison's are crap for that and they virtually own my town.
 
(at EE) But dont you have just as many problems once you've claimed to be a veggie and then people catch you tucking into one of our aquatic friends?
 
EastEnder said:
Yes there is.


If I could have a cast iron guarantee that people would just accept my choices without feeling the need to launch a full scale interrogation, then I would happily say merely "I don't eat meat".

See, it's quite simple really.

:cool:


Welcome to the world. You're a fussy eater - the questions are par for the course. In the same way a small child has to explain why he doesn't like broccoli, EE gets asked about the logic of his preferences. Deal with it.

Just be proud about your own dietary preferences. Don't hide behind (and cheapen) the flag of vegetarianism.

;)
 
I used to be a pesci. It was easier all round to call yourself veggie so you don't get given meat by people who offer or serve you food. Getting all angry and self rightous about it is pretty stupid.
 
Groucho said:
By that logic it is ok to eat all meat that is free range including fish caught from the open seas or rivers but NOT intensively farmed fish.

She meant wild. And she provided me with no information that showed that she picked free range or wild fish anyway. Just blindly bought & ate it as if it was all free range/wild.
 
Onket said:
If you've eaten fish you have.

You buffoon.
Meat, in its broadest definition, is animal tissue used as food. Most often it refers to skeletal muscle and associated fat, but it may also refer to non-muscle organs, including lungs, livers, skin, brains, marrow, and kidneys. The word meat is also often used in a more restrictive sense - the flesh of mammalian species (pigs, cattle, etc.) raised and butchered for human consumption, to the exclusion of seafood, fish, poultry, game, and insects. Eggs are rarely refered to as meat even though they consist of animal tissue. Animals that consume only meat are carnivores. Wiki

As any moderately intelligent person knows, the term 'meat' is more usually used to refer to land based animals, which is exactly the context I used it in.

Silly Onket, must try harder.

:p
 
tarannau said:
Welcome to the world. You're a fussy eater - the questions are par for the course. In the same way a small child has to explain why he doesn't like broccoli, EE gets asked about the logic of his preferences. Deal with it.
No. :p

Why should I have to make allowances for other people's tedious prying?

If people just accepted things at face value then I wouldn't feel the need to claim I'm something I'm not.

:cool:
 
Idaho said:
I used to be a pesci. It was easier all round to call yourself veggie so you don't get given meat by people who offer or serve you food. Getting all angry and self rightous about it is pretty stupid.

Do you really think people will serve you meat if you say 'I only eat fish'

Surely you more likely to be served fish as a 'vegetarian' than you are meat as a pescetarian if you know what I mean?

Either way and blurring the boundaries of vegetarianism isn't a help imo. I've seen too many places only one or maybe two vegetarian food options, at least one of which includes fish..

:rolleyes:
 
EastEnder said:
No. :p

Why should I have to make allowances for other people's tedious prying?

If people just accepted things at face value then I wouldn't feel the need to claim I'm something I'm not.

:cool:

Eh? I can't accept it at face value - you're just a fussy eater who doesn't like meat. What's wrong with accepting that?

Why confuse the picture further by hijacking someone else's dietary label?
 
tarannau said:
Do you really think people will serve you meat if you say 'I only eat fish'

Surely you more likely to be served fish as a 'vegetarian' than you are meat as a pescetarian if you know what I mean?

Either way and blurring the boundaries of vegetarianism isn't a help imo. I've seen too many places only one or maybe two vegetarian food options, at least one of which includes fish..

:rolleyes:

There are numerous situations where one is offered "meat or veggie" options. In that situation it is much easier to say veggie rather than bore someone with details of your precise dietary fussing.

Personally I couldn't give a shit as I eat anything now.
 
Idaho said:
There are numerous situations where one is offered "meat or veggie" options. In that situation it is much easier to say veggie rather than bore someone with details of your precise dietary fussing.

Personally I couldn't give a shit as I eat anything now.

No arguments with that whatsoever, you don't have to bore anyone. You would clearly go for the veggie option in that situation- no more comment necessary. At a push, you can ask if any fish is to be served and take an informed choice based on the response.

Surely everyone's in the same boat when it comes to 'precise dietary fussing' - you can choose to tell people your dislikes, or you can choose to take a risk. What I don't understand is why you'd want to muddy the waters of vegetarianism by claiming to be what you're not. After a good few years working in kitchens I'm sad to confess that I've seen many a ropey kitchen-hand led to somehow believe that vegetarians eat fish somehow - they've seen it themselves.

Surely it's no more difficult to explain that you 'only eat fish' than to say, for example, you can't eat mayonnaise? If a kitchen can deal with food allergies then they can certainly understand that clear instruction. Your choices are your choices, but it's nonsense to suggest that folks flying the flag of vegetarianism for convenience (because they can't be arsed to explain their preferences, poor diddums) don't help to confuse the situation for others.
 
tarannau said:
Your choices are your choices, but it's nonsense to suggest that folks flying the flag of vegetarianism for convenience (because they can't be arsed to explain their preferences, poor diddums) don't help to confuse the situation for others.
Perhaps they aren't flying any flags.

I am not sure if you are really concerned about people not understanding what vegetarianism really is, or whether you think you aren't getting enough respect for your 'purist' ethic which is being diluted by those unworthy of a place on your moral high ground.
 
Idaho said:
Perhaps they aren't flying any flags.

I am not sure if you are really concerned about people not understanding what vegetarianism really is, or whether you think you aren't getting enough respect for your 'purist' ethic which is being diluted by those unworthy of a place on your moral high ground.

Moral high ground my arse. I'm an unashamed omnivore with a few food intolerances - coleslaw can make me projectile vomit from a distance - and a history of working in kitchens. I really just can't comprehend why saying 'I only eat fish' is any more difficult than explaining other culinary preference. Why be bashful about sticking up or your right to eat fish only, or find it difficult/be unwilling to state your choice clearly. Why even run the risk of any confusion for vegetarians - it's surely worse for them to receive a fish based dish than it is for you to receive a properly vegetarian one.

I love the idea of me being a food 'purist.' Anyone who's seen me in the kitchen, bunging food into cook-ups will know that's not the case. I'm all for honest, transparently hearty cooking with few hang ups , which is perhaps why I can't understand why folks are seemingly so precious and unwilling just to explain what they want. If you eat fish, you're not a vegetarian - don't be ashamed.

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