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veggie option for roast dinner which is not a nut roast

being a fairly recent vegetarian (18 months now) i will just say that i prefer roast potatoes not done in goose fat. similarly, i actually prefer onion gravy to meat gravy. this doesn't make my traditional sunday roast round my mum's any less of a roast dinner, it just makes it a slightly different roast dinner.

pretty straightforward init!

can all the veggie haters/baiters fuck the fuck off with their bullshit, no one here is telling you you are wrong and shouldn't eat meat or should be a vegi so no need for going on the offensive.
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I think I've defended them perfectly well. You're down to resorting to the 'harumph, well my potatoes taste and work alright' type approach. Nobody's saying that they can't taste ok, just that they lack that final crunch and distinction. I will personally guarantee that if you try and cook the same style of spuds in differing oils/dripping side by side in the same oven you will see the difference - I've seen it too often in kitchens to argue against it. Taste may be more subjective, but there's a notable difference in the way the oils respond to high heats

There's a certain degree of manufactured outrage in disagreeing with certain folks on here. Nobody's suggesting that you can't do what the fuck you like, but to me (and it seems others) there's too much of a compromise on a traditional Sunday roast dinner to recommend just roasting a mushroom and throwing it as an aside to vegetarians. You end up satisfying nobody that way - you'll have affected the quality of the main accompaniment (roast potatoes) and lost the integral sauce (gravy) made with the meat juices that ties the dish together. You're screwing with the simplicity of a well established classic. Which is why I'd recommend a different approach or dish - the more Italian themed roast I described earlier on for example - that avoids the feeling that you're making an unwelcome compromise for either omnivore or vegetarian. Sunday roast should be a treat after all - the best meat or centerpiece you can afford, cooked simply and with as much love as you can muster. That's not, imo, best served by just bunging a nut roast/giant mushroom in the oven and not changing the techniques and recipes that you use.

I should just make sure no vegetarians get any ideas about coming round yours for a roast, eh? :)
 
I tried nut roast the other day, just to see what it was like and it tasted like sh*t....really bad...the veggie I was with said it wasn't the best, though she'd had worse.....anyway as you were...

Make a big ol rataoullie or something
I think a lot of people forget - including commercial organisations - that if you're making veggie food, you need to a) make sure you're using good, flavourful incredients, and b) that you use seasoning well and wisely.

It is very easy to make bland, uninspiring veggie dishes that never quite make it - it takes a bit more skill to put something together that's got depth and complexity of flavour.

I've eaten too many nut roasts made "out of the book" by inexperienced meaties to think it comes automatically - but if you come across someone who's cooking very tasty veggie food, take a careful look at what they're doing. Are they flash-frying their tomato puree before adding the rest of the ingredients for extra darkness and depth? Or slipping a quarter of a tsp of cumin in to rich it up? What stock are they using? Did they caramelise those onions? Add a spot of dark sugar? Cocoa? Herbs? (I swear by marigold veg bouillon, the low-salt one, Marmite, and some cheapo barbeque herbs de provence I buy from France - gimme those and I'll turn the blandest dish into something nice...)

It's harder to make meat dishes bland (though my school dinner experiences suggest it's not that hard), and it's easy to forget that if you're looking for that big rich taste sensation, it takes a bit more effort doing it veggie-style...
 
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