veggie option for roast dinner which is not a nut roast

[Mr Retro]

It's a 'veggie roast dinner' - roasted veggies innit? You can't argue with that

There is no such thing - I have explained this at length.

You are having a plate of roasted vegetables. Not a roast dinner. It is not allowed to follow the word "Veggie" with "Roast Dinner"

 

[story]

One of those veggie haggis things. Too salty for me, but I'm in a minority of one on this issue in our household.

 

[mr steev]

There is no such thing - I have explained this at length.

You are having a plate of roasted vegetables. Not a roast dinner. It is not allowed to follow the word "Veggie" with "Roast Dinner"

Shit, I didn't realise it wasn't allowed!

Am I allowed to eat mustard with my veg? Or is that just for beef and ham?

 

[Mr Retro]

Shit, I didn't realise it wasn't allowed!

Am I allowed to eat mustard with my veg? Or is that just for beef and ham?

Sorry - just beef and ham. Brown chicken meat too if you push it.

 

[Boycey]

One of those veggie haggis things. Too salty for me, but I'm in a minority of one on this issue in our household.

want!

 

[tarannau]

I think you're deliberately missing the point mr Steev. You can eat what the bleeding hell you like, but that doesn't stop the meal being affected and often diminished by having to make alterations for veggie eaters.

At the root of it, the sunday roast is an English tradition heavily based around a chunk of roasted meat, with an integral gravy made out of the juices of the joint. It's difficult to make anything as simple and coherent as a veggie alternative.

If we had a tradition of roasting veg and filo pastry parcels on Sunday others would see the Brits very differently. The French would have to call us the Roast Parsnips instead of the RoastBeefs for a start or more likely, those big effete ponces from over the channel

 

[hektik]

Cheers all. Think we'll be going for the mushroom wellington.

potatoes etc wont be a problem, as we dont have goose/duck fat, so will be doing them in olive oil instead anyway.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

One of those veggie haggis things. Too salty for me, but I'm in a minority of one on this issue in our household.

Wouldn't veggie haggis just be ball of oatmeal?

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

One of those veggie haggis things. Too salty for me, but I'm in a minority of one on this issue in our household.

**drools**

does anyone know how to make it?? or is it uber difficult?

 

[crustychick]

Hang on here. the two consituent parts "roast" and "dinner" have no reference to a requirement for meat or otherwise.

the technical interpretation of the phrase "roast dinner" is: a meal, of which the majority of the constituent parts have been roasted (cooked in teh oven).

so there

 

[crustychick]

**drools**

does anyone know how to make it?? or is it uber difficult?

I have an utterly delicious and failsafe veggie haggis recipe. i can dig it out for ya if you like!

edit: it's this one, http://www.vegsoc.org/news/2001/burns.html

the only difficult ingredient to find is oatmeal. please don't substitute rolled oats (which are for porridge!) you should be able to get oatmeal in health food shops such as Holland & Barrett or your local alternative

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

oooh yes please CC

 

[tarannau]

It's madness using literal terms here. Everyone knows that food - and indeed what's virtually a national dish - has associations and expectations above the literal

It's like opening a Fish and Chips shop and wondering why people aren't satisfied with your offering of a smoked mackerel goujon and a maplewood chip.

 

[crustychick]

oooh yes please CC

it's up there now ^^^

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

I have an utterly delicious and failsafe veggie haggis recipe. i can dig it out for ya if you like!

edit: it's this one, http://www.vegsoc.org/news/2001/burns.html

the only difficult ingredient to find is oatmeal. please don't substitute rolled oats (which are for porridge!) you should be able to get oatmeal in health food shops such as Holland & Barrett or your local alternative

oooh looks delish, thank you! reckon it's fine missing out the peanuts, i'm allergic? or maybe substituting cashew nuts?

 

[crustychick]

oooh looks delish, thank you! reckon it's fine missing out the peanuts, i'm allergic? or maybe substituting cashew nuts?

yup, fo sho..... it's actually really hard to buy plain (non-salted, non-roasted) peanuts in supermarkets here, so I'm pretty sure I used some other nut. cashew would be fine and totally tasty!

 

[Pingu]

can they eat wafer thin ham?

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

great...merci *licks lips*
edit: CC - if you see this...dumb question but the lentils aren't meant to be pre-soaked right?

 

[fractionMan]

can they eat wafer thin ham?

One of my ex's who was a total vegetarian would eat wafer thin ham once a fortnight when we went to sainsburys. The weirdo

 

[tarannau]

To be fair it's probably more water than meat anyway. It's virtually homeopathic ham.

 

[Lubi]

I think you're deliberately missing the point mr Steev. You can eat what the bleeding hell you like, but that doesn't stop the meal being affected and often diminished by having to make alterations for veggie eaters.

At the root of it, the sunday roast is an English tradition heavily based around a chunk of roasted meat, with an integral gravy made out of the juices of the joint. It's difficult to make anything as simple and coherent as a veggie alternative.

If we had a tradition of roasting veg and filo pastry parcels on Sunday others would see the Brits very differently. The French would have to call us the Roast Parsnips instead of the RoastBeefs for a start or more likely, those big effete ponces from over the channel

Actually the point is that veggies eat roast dinner too and the op is asking for info about including them which is easy, as a meat eater I do not find my roast dinner diminished if I eat meat with it or not, I dont particularly like potatoes roasted in meat, I prefer them roasted in olive oil and rosmary. I like onion gravy not meat gravy.

We have loads of veggie roasts, and meat does not need to be integral part of it - I sometimes go to waitrose and get just a piece of meat for me, and have it with the veggie roast - but I can take it or leave it, either way it is still a "roast".

My favourite veggie roast has to have yorkshire pudding and I love the mushroom and tarragon lentil loaf that Ste makes with roast potatoes roast carrots and sprouts with walnuts.

Its a matter of taste, and like you say tradition - but tradition to me is only how your family cook YOUR dinner for you and my family doesnt have it how you do, so I dont think Steve is missing the point. I certainly dont think oh god how will the french see me now that Im not eating beef with my roast lol

 

[Mr Retro]

It's virtually homeopathic ham.

Vegetarian fucking haggis. . Whats the point?

 

[DeadManWalking]

Chestnut and red wine pate en croute

This is bloody nice http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/dec/17/features.weekend4

So nice I still have the recipe 4 years on. Meat eaters love it too.

 

[kittyP]

It's madness using literal terms here. Everyone knows that food - and indeed what's virtually a national dish - has associations and expectations above the literal

It's like opening a Fish and Chips shop and wondering why people aren't satisfied with your offering of a smoked mackerel goujon and a maplewood chip.

 

[DeadManWalking]

Vegetarian fucking haggis. . Whats the point?

It's lovely?

 

[Mr Retro]

Actually the point is that veggies eat roast dinner too

Haven't you been listening? They don't. They may have a plate of roast veg for their dinner. A "Roast Dinner" has meat and meat based gravy!

 

[Mr Retro]

It's lovely?

I have no doubt it is. It's not haggis though.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Jesus Christ


(DMW - that looks delish too!)

 

[DeadManWalking]

Haven't you been listening? They don't. They may have a plate of roast veg for their dinner. A "Roast Dinner" has meat and meat based gravy!

No a roast dinner is a dinner that is roasted. You are eating either Roadt beef, roast chicken, etc etc

 

[crustychick]

Mr Retro - something tells me this isn't the thread for you, having offered no helpful comments to the OP and infact only making negative comments to all the dishes offered here which for some reason, offend you to your core, in their nomenclature.