subversplat
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Pizzas just aren't the same without cheese on them, cheese on toast isn't the same, cheeseburgers, cheese n onion crisps. All that quick 'n tasty nosh in the bin 


yeah good, fuck cheese, its shit anywaysubversplat said:Pizzas just aren't the same without cheese on them, cheese on toast isn't the same, cheeseburgers, cheese n onion crisps. All that quick 'n tasty nosh in the bin![]()
moose said:various shades of beige concrete.

guineveretoo said:TVP has become quorn, really, hasn't it?

I wish I hated cheese tooHerbsman. said:yeah good, fuck cheese, its shit anyway
when i was vegan i thought pizzas were better without cheese, and i still do now, even though i now eat cheese
cheese on toast is fuckin crap, greasy as fuck, makes my skin feel like its oozing with grease
as for chese & onion crisps, fuck em, it aint even real cheese
and cheeseburgers... fuck them too


Herbsman. said:fuck cheese, its shit anyway

Yeah, TVP is dried soya mince. Sainsburys sell it in big bags and you just mix with water and use as normal mince. Use it like it's named (Textured Vegetable Protein) with a lot of sauce and it's fine, try to base a meal around it and you'll be horribly disappointed.laptop said:I think TVP is/was soya protein - can you still buy it outside pies?
ive tried many cheeses, even posh expensice cheese that cheese connoisseurs eat, & it failed to impress melaptop said:You just haven't met the right fromage yet
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Herbsman. said:cheese is just a state of mind

oops, i meant the need for cheeselaptop said:If that's so, then so are beige concrete and nuclear weapons![]()
Chinese people don't secrete lactase beyond a few years old: it's how we all used to be, only Westerners, by dint of drinking milk over the millenia, seem to have stopped cutting off lactase production. Quite a lot of Westerners, even so, are lactose-intolerant, and I suspect it's at least sometimes probably genetic, and to do with the lactase thing.poster342002 said:Interestingly, on the cheese point, some cultures simply don't use it at all. Chinese food, for example, does not make any use of cheese or dairy products as far as I know. I think it simply does not feature in chinese cuisine at all (when was the last time you saw a dairy-based chinese dish?).
What are they made of?tarannau said:Ah, but the Chinese aren't entirely anti-milk, as anyone who knows the popularity of these sweets will testify.
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I used to love white rabbits...
well I thought I bought some chinese milky rice one time, but it turned out to be rice milkposter342002 said:Interestingly, on the cheese point, some cultures simply don't use it at all. Chinese food, for example, does not make any use of cheese or dairy products as far as I know. I think it simply does not feature in chinese cuisine at all (when was the last time you saw a dairy-based chinese dish?).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1104740,00.htmlAnna Karpf said:Consider this: American women are among the biggest consumers of calcium in the world, yet still have one of the highest levels of osteoporosis in the world. Lots of researchers have tried to work out the relationship between these two facts. A study funded by the US National Dairy Council, for example, gave a group of postmenopausal women three 8oz glasses of skimmed milk a day for two years, then compared their bones with those of a control group of women not given the milk. The dairy group consumed 1,400mg of calcium a day, yet lost bone at twice the rate of the control group. Similarly, the Harvard Nurses' Health Study found that women who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. Another piece of research found that women who get most of their protein from animal sources have three times the rate of bone loss and hip fractures of women who get most of their protein from vegetable sources, according to a 2001 National Institutes of Health study.
The pattern of diet and fractures in other parts of the world is equally revealing. Most Chinese people eat and drink no dairy products, and get all their calcium from vegetables. Yet while they consume only half the calcium of Americans, osteoporosis is uncommon in China, despite an average life expectancy of 70.
Oh I dont know, in Poland you can get bigger bits and when reconstituted, dipped in herby breadcrumbs and fried they are great, I have fooled Germans (!!!!!) into believing that they are eating real meat.subversplat said:Yeah, TVP is dried soya mince. Sainsburys sell it in big bags and you just mix with water and use as normal mince. Use it like it's named (Textured Vegetable Protein) with a lot of sauce and it's fine, try to base a meal around it and you'll be horribly disappointed.

The pattern of diet and fractures in other parts of the world is equally revealing. Most Chinese people eat and drink no dairy products, and get all their calcium from vegetables. Yet while they consume only half the calcium of Americans, osteoporosis is uncommon in China, despite an average life expectancy of 70.
Strange that... bloody journalists and their misleading informationFuchs66 said:Hmmm not so sure if this is only to do with a lack of dairy I think there may be other factors to consider, Japanese tend to not eat dairy aswell and IME there seems to be quite a lot of osteoporosis.

Fuchs66 said:Oh I dont know, in Poland you can get bigger bits and when reconstituted, dipped in herby breadcrumbs and fried they are great, I have fooled Germans (!!!!!) into believing that they are eating real meat.![]()

Seconded, but without the winky eye.tarannau said:Can I just point out that anyone mistaking soya, no matter how many breadcrumbs and herby bits it has added, for any form of meat has no tastebuds whatsoever. They're either lying to spare your feelings or they're possibly the worst judge of tastes since life begun.
Either that or they've lived, cut off from society, in a cave somewhere, only having access to a diet of random Bernard Matthews chicken-based products for a decade or two.
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tarannau said:Can I just point out that anyone mistaking soya, no matter how many breadcrumbs and herby bits it has added, for any form of meat has no tastebuds whatsoever. They're either lying to spare your feelings or they're possibly the worst judge of tastes since life begun.
Either that or they've lived, cut off from society, in a cave somewhere, only having access to a diet of random Bernard Matthews chicken-based products for a decade or two.
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Ignore tarannau, he's a terrible food snob...fortyplus said:On the other hand, I have - I regret to say - eaten stuff which called itself meat or poultry and yet could, very easily, be mistaken for soya....


fortyplus said:On the other hand, I have - I regret to say - eaten stuff which called itself meat or poultry and yet could, very easily, be mistaken for soya....


she went for "practical gifts" we'd also get litre sized bottles of cheap shampoo and plenty of socks as well
..its costly to make cos nuts are expensive, can be VERY tasty tho