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Veggie horrors from yesteryear

Pizzas just aren't the same without cheese on them, cheese on toast isn't the same, cheeseburgers, cheese n onion crisps. All that quick 'n tasty nosh in the bin :(
 
subversplat said:
Pizzas just aren't the same without cheese on them, cheese on toast isn't the same, cheeseburgers, cheese n onion crisps. All that quick 'n tasty nosh in the bin :(
yeah good, fuck cheese, its shit anyway

when i was vegan i thought pizzas were better without cheese, and i still do now, even though i now eat cheese

cheese on toast is fuckin crap, greasy as fuck, makes my skin feel like its oozing with grease

as for chese & onion crisps, fuck em, it aint even real cheese

and cheeseburgers... fuck them too
 
moose said:
various shades of beige concrete.

:D

guineveretoo said:
TVP has become quorn, really, hasn't it?

It'd be breaking the Trades Descriptions Act if it were. "Textured Vegetable Protein". Quorn's not a vegetable - it's a single-cell fungus grown on oil. (No, it's not a mushroom, any more than a meerkat is a sheep despite them both being mammals.)

I think TVP is/was soya protein - can you still buy it outside pies?

Rankest vegetarian food... has to be vegan cheese substitutes. Probably OK for filling holes in Victorian plaster. Doubt whether the mice would touch them.

But they're not "yesteryear" :(

I'm afraid generic hippie red-bean stew has to be up there. That is of yesteryear, isn't it? Please? Though triangular breadcrumbed nut-cutlet-mix sausages probably did beat it...
 
Herbsman. said:
yeah good, fuck cheese, its shit anyway

when i was vegan i thought pizzas were better without cheese, and i still do now, even though i now eat cheese

cheese on toast is fuckin crap, greasy as fuck, makes my skin feel like its oozing with grease

as for chese & onion crisps, fuck em, it aint even real cheese

and cheeseburgers... fuck them too
I wish I hated cheese too :(

I live in hope that one day there's a decent imitation of cheddar or mozerella :)
 
Herbsman. said:
fuck cheese, its shit anyway

You just haven't met the right fromage yet :D

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laptop said:
I think TVP is/was soya protein - can you still buy it outside pies?
Yeah, TVP is dried soya mince. Sainsburys sell it in big bags and you just mix with water and use as normal mince. Use it like it's named (Textured Vegetable Protein) with a lot of sauce and it's fine, try to base a meal around it and you'll be horribly disappointed.
 
laptop said:
You just haven't met the right fromage yet :D

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ive tried many cheeses, even posh expensice cheese that cheese connoisseurs eat, & it failed to impress me

the only animal product i actually like nowadays is actual meat, and even though i eat it sometimes, i can happily eat without it

remember people, cheese is just a state of mind, you can break the addiction to animal milk, why not talk to Frank or something, he might be able to help you with his unbiased advice
 
Interestingly, on the cheese point, some cultures simply don't use it at all. Chinese food, for example, does not make any use of cheese or dairy products as far as I know. I think it simply does not feature in chinese cuisine at all (when was the last time you saw a dairy-based chinese dish?).
 
poster342002 said:
Interestingly, on the cheese point, some cultures simply don't use it at all. Chinese food, for example, does not make any use of cheese or dairy products as far as I know. I think it simply does not feature in chinese cuisine at all (when was the last time you saw a dairy-based chinese dish?).
Chinese people don't secrete lactase beyond a few years old: it's how we all used to be, only Westerners, by dint of drinking milk over the millenia, seem to have stopped cutting off lactase production. Quite a lot of Westerners, even so, are lactose-intolerant, and I suspect it's at least sometimes probably genetic, and to do with the lactase thing.
 
My sister-in-law is Thai, and she told me that Westerners smell funny because of all the dairy products we eat. Yuck.

I like sosmix still, and beanfeast.

I think soya milk is one of the nastiest things I've ever tasted, I had a sip of one that was sweetened with apple juice, and I had to spit it out - and as you know, I never spit!;)

Vegan cheese is rathy manky too.
 
Ah, but the Chinese aren't entirely anti-milk, as anyone who knows the popularity of these sweets will testify.

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I used to love white rabbits...
 
Milk dude, milk.

It's basically a condensed milk sweet with added corn syrup and a rice paper inside 'wrapper' for added interest.
 
poster342002 said:
Interestingly, on the cheese point, some cultures simply don't use it at all. Chinese food, for example, does not make any use of cheese or dairy products as far as I know. I think it simply does not feature in chinese cuisine at all (when was the last time you saw a dairy-based chinese dish?).
well I thought I bought some chinese milky rice one time, but it turned out to be rice milk :o

BTW, something I read when I was convincing myself to stay vegan...

Anna Karpf said:
Consider this: American women are among the biggest consumers of calcium in the world, yet still have one of the highest levels of osteoporosis in the world. Lots of researchers have tried to work out the relationship between these two facts. A study funded by the US National Dairy Council, for example, gave a group of postmenopausal women three 8oz glasses of skimmed milk a day for two years, then compared their bones with those of a control group of women not given the milk. The dairy group consumed 1,400mg of calcium a day, yet lost bone at twice the rate of the control group. Similarly, the Harvard Nurses' Health Study found that women who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. Another piece of research found that women who get most of their protein from animal sources have three times the rate of bone loss and hip fractures of women who get most of their protein from vegetable sources, according to a 2001 National Institutes of Health study.

The pattern of diet and fractures in other parts of the world is equally revealing. Most Chinese people eat and drink no dairy products, and get all their calcium from vegetables. Yet while they consume only half the calcium of Americans, osteoporosis is uncommon in China, despite an average life expectancy of 70.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1104740,00.html
 
subversplat said:
Yeah, TVP is dried soya mince. Sainsburys sell it in big bags and you just mix with water and use as normal mince. Use it like it's named (Textured Vegetable Protein) with a lot of sauce and it's fine, try to base a meal around it and you'll be horribly disappointed.
Oh I dont know, in Poland you can get bigger bits and when reconstituted, dipped in herby breadcrumbs and fried they are great, I have fooled Germans (!!!!!) into believing that they are eating real meat. :D
 
The pattern of diet and fractures in other parts of the world is equally revealing. Most Chinese people eat and drink no dairy products, and get all their calcium from vegetables. Yet while they consume only half the calcium of Americans, osteoporosis is uncommon in China, despite an average life expectancy of 70.

Hmmm not so sure if this is only to do with a lack of dairy I think there may be other factors to consider, Japanese tend to not eat dairy aswell and IME there seems to be quite a lot of osteoporosis.
 
Fuchs66 said:
Hmmm not so sure if this is only to do with a lack of dairy I think there may be other factors to consider, Japanese tend to not eat dairy aswell and IME there seems to be quite a lot of osteoporosis.
Strange that... bloody journalists and their misleading information :mad:

There's also the factor of sunlight (for vitamin D production) and exercise, which are essential for bone strength

'tis easier and more profitable to market milk and calcum tablets than it is to persuade people to go outside more and exercise...
 
Fuchs66 said:
Oh I dont know, in Poland you can get bigger bits and when reconstituted, dipped in herby breadcrumbs and fried they are great, I have fooled Germans (!!!!!) into believing that they are eating real meat. :D


Can I just point out that anyone mistaking soya, no matter how many breadcrumbs and herby bits it has added, for any form of meat has no tastebuds whatsoever. They're either lying to spare your feelings or they're possibly the worst judge of tastes since life begun.

Either that or they've lived, cut off from society, in a cave somewhere, only having access to a diet of random Bernard Matthews chicken-based products for a decade or two.

;)
 
tarannau said:
Can I just point out that anyone mistaking soya, no matter how many breadcrumbs and herby bits it has added, for any form of meat has no tastebuds whatsoever. They're either lying to spare your feelings or they're possibly the worst judge of tastes since life begun.

Either that or they've lived, cut off from society, in a cave somewhere, only having access to a diet of random Bernard Matthews chicken-based products for a decade or two.

;)
Seconded, but without the winky eye.
 
tarannau said:
Can I just point out that anyone mistaking soya, no matter how many breadcrumbs and herby bits it has added, for any form of meat has no tastebuds whatsoever. They're either lying to spare your feelings or they're possibly the worst judge of tastes since life begun.

Either that or they've lived, cut off from society, in a cave somewhere, only having access to a diet of random Bernard Matthews chicken-based products for a decade or two.

;)

On the other hand, I have - I regret to say - eaten stuff which called itself meat or poultry and yet could, very easily, be mistaken for soya....
 
fortyplus said:
On the other hand, I have - I regret to say - eaten stuff which called itself meat or poultry and yet could, very easily, be mistaken for soya....
Ignore tarannau, he's a terrible food snob...:eek:

Nowt wrong with soya.

Just smother everything in tomato ketchup and you're laughing.

:cool:
 
fortyplus said:
On the other hand, I have - I regret to say - eaten stuff which called itself meat or poultry and yet could, very easily, be mistaken for soya....

To be fair, I did mention Bernard Matthews TurkeyChick-based products as a possible source of meat-soya confusion

;)

Food snob? From Captain Ketchup that's almost a compliment.

I've seen EE in real life too. He's a wrong un and make no mistake. He only eats from the Kids' menus and smothers his plate in a faeces-coloured slop of brown sauce, ketchup and marmite. He swigs three pints of sunny delight with every meal, before going slightly doolally, gurning down Stockwell High Road and scaring children.

It speaks volumes that he's an advocate for soya-based nastiness...

;)
 
i still use TVP occasionally in spag bol..if you spice it/herb it/garlic it up it can be alright and the price is so right!:D
over 10 years ago now my x- bf mum always gave us several BIG bags of sosmix for xmess:p she went for "practical gifts" we'd also get litre sized bottles of cheap shampoo and plenty of socks as well :p

nut roast?
those were £2 from holland and barret back when dole was £36 a week:eek:
so maybe we would have it for xmess,once a friend who was a lecturer severed it to us;) ..its costly to make cos nuts are expensive, can be VERY tasty tho

the thing we tried for a "treat" to take on a camping trip once back then 13 odd years ago which was VILE are those squeezy tube vegan/veggie "pates" from h&B..disgusting

we would eat the sosmix when we were REALLY skint and had no other food around..it was a pain to make but not THAT bad as far as i remember.some of the linda mc c products back then didnt taste all that nice(have since been improved i think?)and you could NEVER get her stuff cheap, now due to quorn being so much better/more popular lindas stuff is always on offer,i dont ever eat it now tho
 
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