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Nah, cheese I could do without. It's beer, wine, big boots and knitting wool which destroy my resolve.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
A life without bacon is not worth living either.

I really don't understand peoples obsession with bacon. Even when I was a meat eater it was one of those things that smelt nice cooking, but the taste never lived up to it.
Each to their own like, just that bacon (above any other meat/meat product) always comes up in veggie/meat roundabouts.

I'd struggle with no cheese if I were vegan... but I suppose it would be a matter of re-educting my cooking skills. But carob is no chocolate :)
 
Nixon said:
Im curious because recently as i've been expanding my group of friends i've realised that i know a lot of vegans...and im curious to see why people decide to become vegan.

Are you vegan?
If so how long have you been vegan for?
Why did you decide to become vegan?
Do you enjoy being vegan? Did you find it hard to begin with?

Educate me..tell me about your veganness :)
I'm vegetarian, but definitely not vegan.

Over the last few years, I've become increasingly convinced that vegans exist to give vegetarians an idea of what they look like to meat-eaters.
 
I'm not even close to being a vegan myself, but the missus is. Actually, nowadays she describes herself as 95% vegan, because she ends up eating the odd bit of dairy as a result of spending most of her time with me!

She was brought up veggie and comes from a family who are quite pro-animal so to her it was just a natural progression to veganism.

Don't think she ever found it all that hard (being brought up veggie helped) but since she met me she has found it a lot easier to maintain if she has her odd 'naughtie treat' such as milk chocolate or cheese.

I have to say that I've felt a lot healthier since I met her. I eat more vegetables (tbf, that wouldn't have been all that hard!) as we usually eat together - not necessarily the same meal but stuff on the sides ie veg will be the same.

I also enjoy my meat a lot more now. Obviously I'm not allowed to buy caged chickens/eggs or mass produced meat, so most of my meat comes from the local farmers market, or butchers I know can trace their meat to free range farms. More expensive but I can taste the difference.
 
mr steev said:
But carob is no chocolate :)

Jesus fuck!!

I remember my dad always used to take me to health food shops and used to buy me that stuff as a 'treat'. :(

"It's just like chocolate but healthier". My arse. In fact, that might explain the piss poor relationship I had with my father :(
 
Sorry to bump an old thread. Just found it interesting.

I became vegan 3 years ago, lasted just over a year, then I became weak and crumbled, and became a mere vegetarian. Now I eat fish and chicken :eek:

dada said:
don't mind me. it was a quick and blunt reply.
what i meant by living things/beings are the ones who intake oxygen.

a symbiotic relationship,
plant <- co2 <- animal (human)
plant -> o2 -> animal (human)
Plants take in oxygen too you know,.
 
I met a vegan who wouldn't even use horse shit on his garden. I thought that was taking it to a level beyond reason, but he explained that it was the-principle-of-the-thing, in that even if these particular horses were loved and cared for and perfectly happy, the concept of keeping animals and breeding them etc. for the comfort/convenience/use of humans leads inevitably to factory farming and abuse of welfare. He had a dog as a pet though... :confused:

I loved the thing that pembrokestephen said about vegans existing to give vegetarians an idea of what they look like to meat-eaters. A lot of hard-core vegans do look wan and frail, don't they. But I think some of them are vegans as a form of orthorexia.

I prefer to eat sheep's cheese and goat's cheese because they can't be milked ceaselessly as cows are.

A lot of my food choices are made for political reasons as well as health reasons. As the feminists said: "The personal is the political".
 
As far as my scruples are concerned I'll *eat* just about anything.

However I won't *buy* factory-farmed food.

My wallet is a more powerful weapon than my mouth. I've never understood the logic of diet-as-political-action; it's often just a lazy reaction based on half-truths and a general incomprehension of husbandry, providing a poor salve for the vegan/vegetarian's conscience in place of a more directed engagement with the underlying issues of animal welfare, environment and poverty.
 
Err... I eat what I buy.

That's exactly why my dietary choices are a way for me to be political. My wallet is far more powerful than my vote, that's exactly why I chose to use my wallet to back up my political choices. I also make political choices about non-dietary consumables as well.
 
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