Valkyrie

[Epona]

(how much would you have enjoyed '300' if it has been entirely in Latin?)

I think you mean Greek, no? I was really enjoying the post up til that point.

 

[Idris2002]

It would have been much less likely, but not impossible. (this is in response to extra dry, above)

If AH had been removed in 1938, say, you would still have all the apparatus for rearmament that had been built up in the previous five years; as Napoleon said, you can do anything with bayonets except sit on them.

That went along with a continuing social crisis that the rearmament plan hadn't really dealt with. I'm reading Tooze's economic history of the Reich now, and not only is it excellent, it goes into detail about how the living standards of the masses in general and the urban working class in particular were not lifted by much if at all in the six years before the war. Hence the conquest and the consequent looting of occupied territories. The idea that Germany needed a strong military state to build up its economy and win 'living space' in the east was around for a good long time before Hitler as well.

 

[goldenecitrone]

I think you mean Greek, no? I was really enjoying the post up til that point.

The screenplay was written in Latin.

 

[Idris2002]

With large parts of the German people convinced that it all could have been what?

'Different', that it all could have been 'different'. 'Der Fuher iss going to give uss land in zer east'.

 

[goldenecitrone]

'Different', that it all could have been 'different'. 'Der Fuher iss going to give uss land in zer east'.

I think there'd always have been a small hard core of right wing nutters in Germany whatever the outcome. Don't think there would have been considerably more if Hitler had been assassinated. But who knows.

 

[camouflage]

I saw this film last weekend. Was abit hard to sit through at first with everybody clumping around in Wermacht uniforms and being incredably Prussian all the time.

Things picked up though after the bombing and it all got very exciting. My girlfriend was really intreagued about the communications system, those women tapping away all the time, they were copying out the ticker-comms coming in from other offices right? I assumed that there were encryption offices between them somewhere... anyway I digress.

It was a good film, and if you could stand it, along with the Pianist it would make a good precursor to watching Downfall.

After that you'd need to watch Run Lola Run or something to cure yerself from German = 3rd Reich syndrome.

 

[skyscraper101]

Just saw this on tv. Thought it was pretty good. Nothing much new to add to the thread except my confused double take when I first saw the Kenneth Branagh who plays Major-General Henning von Tresckow (on the right).

I only thought it was Charlie Brooker at first!