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V for Vendetta

belboid said:
I think you've upset Echo, Donna.

Poor thing.


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TheLostProphet said:
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Donna Ferentes said:
Why, incidentally, is there this nerdish clamour that an adaptation should be as faithful as can be to the original? If it were, what would be the point of it?

I dunno, it's text-as-holy-text as far as I can see.

The problem with cinema adaptations though is that 99.9% of them remove original features and stretch the subject over a standard Hollywood formula.

If 50% of the time adaptations were more imaginative and innovative than the original work, then fine. However usually classic comics, books, etc are merely a way for Hollywood to identify a 'good' story that will likely produce a profit at the box office.
 
I was weeping for the film and weeping for my dream, my dream of what this country was and could be again. That’s exactly what this film is about. The dream of freedom and those that would fight and die for it. When this film ends, it proves not to be about terrorism at all. It proves to be about patriotism. It proves to be about what you are willing to do to your very soul for the sake of your country. Sure the hero is a terrorist – he’s also the single greatest patriot put to film in decades

This is from someone who has seen it. For some reason that 'patriotic' message of the film, it doesn't appear to be in the book version :confused:

:(:mad::(
 
Idaho said:
If 50% of the time adaptations were more imaginative and innovative than the original work, then fine. However usually classic comics, books, etc are merely a way for Hollywood to identify a 'good' story that will likely produce a profit at the box office.
Well yes, but I can hardly see that it's more meritorious to just copy down what's already there in the hope that the core audience will prefer it that way.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Why, incidentally, is there this nerdish clamour that an adaptation should be as faithful as can be to the original? If it were, what would be the point of it?

I dunno, it's text-as-holy-text as far as I can see.

I agree. If you're gonna make a film from a piece of literature - whats the point of making it as similar to the original? I mean if you love the book so much - why don't you just read the book?

But the point is - why bother making a film of a book or something in the first place? And why fuck it up so badly and rewrite the thing so that you not only alienate the original fans of the book - but also put off people who've never read it in the first place. (I could list examples but i'd be here all day...)
 
Incidentally, it's a common observation that the best film adaptations are adaptations of second-rate books, not classics.

(Not that V for Vendetta is a classic, mind.)
 
I'd say it's better than Watchmen, which is still too in hock to superhero cliche.

in the film is Evey's da identified as a socialist? I'll bet they left that out. . .
 
TheLostProphet said:
4) The Evey character is already portrayed as an anti-govt. type from the beginning, because the scriptwriters apparently didn't want to show how 'normal' people can become politically active and aware - it's just those naturally anti-govt. types.
She also appears to have become part of the royal family if Portmans accent is anything to go by.
 
Ah but Watchmen took the concept beyond the normal standard, it's a thumping good story as well. There's only one 'super' hero in the story, Dr Manhattan, and his character is a figure of detached isolation for a lot of the time.
 
Idris2002 said:
Yes and no. 1984 was sci-fi, sort of, but it wasroooted in the reality of the 1940s.
Hmmm, but arguably the role of all fiction including science fiction is to comment on existing reality. How close and imagined world actually is to any actually existing world is not really relevant: the point is the strength of the commentary.

I think Watchmen is top stuff by the way: and when 9/11 happened it was one of two works of literature which immediately occurred to me (this being the other). To me, that speak volumes about its powers of commentary.
 
From what I've read this is not at all faithful, infact I think they have compleatly missed the originals point. The Wakowskis opening V speech is dreadful and stupid.

I like Moores stuff but I'm not such a fan of V so hopefuly I won't mind too much that this is shit.
 
Echo Base said:
I love Watchmen. I hope they NEVER make the film.

I hope they make a 'top 10' TV series, it's my favorate moore comic.
I think it might be a tad too expencive though. Just finished SMAX, not quite as good but a nice jaunt.
 
redsquirrel said:
The've been trying for years but the thing keeps on getting dropped fro one reason or another (thankfully).

Weird but true; Paul Greengrass was attached to direct, but when the plug got pulled, he moved onto a 9/11 project.
 
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