V for Vendetta
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poului said:
I agree. I don't like the message of the film as it has been reported by reviewers, The moral being that totalitarian (Implication being that our democracy is one) governments need to take notices of the "people" or they will be punished by being blown to bits.
In other words you did not take much notice of our anti war demo so were are on the side of those that want to blow London to bits, so you better watch out people. And if this film inspires any suicide bomber to think they are a hero if they murder some random British people, thats all the better.
Sunspots said:Have you got a link to it please? The only review I've read in The Independent is by Nicholas Barber (-who's equally unimpressed by it!).
here,
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/film/reviews/article351682.ece
treefrog
Saddle up
I saw it with Dante at the weekend and found it quite entertaining. I've read V once and that was years ago, so I wasn't weighted down with expectation. Some parts were genuinely quite moving (Stephen Fry's character's monologue about his sexuality for example) and some of it was a bit "eh?" but on the whole very enjoyable.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Graphic Novel = Alan Moore = Good
Film = Wachowski Cunts = Bad
the message of the graphic novel is dead good, because it's not an attack on the modern situation - it's a fantasy what if type thing.
can't believe the 'lefty' v 'righty' type stuff on the net about it
get over yerselves, it's a fucking thumping good read
shit film though
Film = Wachowski Cunts = Bad
the message of the graphic novel is dead good, because it's not an attack on the modern situation - it's a fantasy what if type thing.
can't believe the 'lefty' v 'righty' type stuff on the net about it
get over yerselves, it's a fucking thumping good read
shit film though
I liked some aspects of the film, mostly details that have to do with V, such as V watching the Count of Monte Cristo, putting on his gloves and cooking an egg. He is an updated image of a superhero like Batman, with a touch of Count Dracula.
I also can't help thinking how great it would be to be abducted by a subversive man in black and taken to his underground hiding place full of books and paintings, to be awoken by a jukebox playing 'cry me a river' and the man himself in full suit, making coffee and an egg in a basket and then showing me his favourite films...
I also can't help thinking how great it would be to be abducted by a subversive man in black and taken to his underground hiding place full of books and paintings, to be awoken by a jukebox playing 'cry me a river' and the man himself in full suit, making coffee and an egg in a basket and then showing me his favourite films...
As much as I like Dancing in the Street I don't think it would be right in that particular scene... she's waking up gentlyTheLostProphet said:
It is strange but V only actually exists through Evey, very rarely is he seen on his own. It's like they are alter egos of each other.
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Reno said:
Er, yes it was. Quite famously so.
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Reno said:I haven't felt geeky enough about the film to read much about it, but if that's true it explains why it looks so shit.
I don't understand you. You say it looks shit because is was not shot in London, however it was shot largely in London to which you reply 'ah that is why it looks shit'????
I'm not a geek and not interested in the film and I think the origonal comic was shit anyway. I know because it was all over the news when they filmed the bits by parliment etc. They were lucky to get that in before 7 / 7
Reno
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ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
I thought you were telling me that some of the film was utilising Dr Who sets.
They went to London do some establishing shots, but most of it was shot in Berlin. If they had to shoot most of a big budget film on sets, then at least they should make them look better than wobbly Dr Who sets.
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Reno said:
Ah I see where we went wrong.
I read that there was quite a lot filmed in london and the rest was in Berlin. Could just be press hype. Not going to check so I will take your word for it, couldn't give a fuck about the W brothers after reloaded and revolutons, shittest deluded filmmakers films ever (I haven't seen battle field earth).
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Well I just saw the film and thought it was fantastic! Of course it has political and artistic flaws, but its a mainstream movie. Generally though, was amazed to see such a political film. All the hard core Alan Moore fans might winge that it departs from their holy book, but I think the Warshawski brothers have done a good job updating it to deal with the 'War on Terror', Islamophobia, biowarfare and surveillance. Fairly Savvy and fun too. Great stuff! Go see!
Leica said:
I've been thinking more about this and I may have a strong case for the idea that more than accomplices V and Evey are one and the same or alternative selves, two opposites that complement each other. Eve(y) is V backwards. V is present wherever Evey is. Like Superman, a superhero has two selves. She embodies the normal daily self of the superhero(ine) while he is the super self. She works at a television station, like Superman is a journalist. V shadows her. The film starts with two parallel sequences of Evey and V getting ready to go out. The imprisonment of Evey and her subsequent transformation is an acting out of what V went through. The scene where V comes out of the prison is superimposed on the scene of Eve coming out in the air. In the end she carries out his plan. When the final objective is completed V has ceased to exist as a superhero but continues to live on in Evey.
I thought i was brilliant. I have never read or seen the comic/book but i thought the plot was excellent. i liked the way it was set in britain and in the sort of society we may well be heading towards. I love politics though so that might be it...
anyway gets a great big thumbs up from me!
anyway gets a great big thumbs up from me!
I thought it was good. It isn't a masterpiece, and it's not a new 1984 or anything, but it was an enjoyable couple of hours. I felt it was more a metaphor (or allegory, if you will) rather than a political tract.
From previews I thought they were going to turn V into much more of a superhero-type, but I think they kept him close enough to the original character.
I didn't like the almost-love story that they tried to crowbar in, I would have preferred the original is-he-her-father-or-not? plot.
From previews I thought they were going to turn V into much more of a superhero-type, but I think they kept him close enough to the original character.
I didn't like the almost-love story that they tried to crowbar in, I would have preferred the original is-he-her-father-or-not? plot.
Saw it last night.
Not a great film by any strectch of the imagination.
V's death scene was kinda cool.
And the middle bit where - amongst other things - evey gets her hair cut and stuff were kinda cool.
Felt like the tried to shoehorn too much of the book in thou. Might have been better if they had just left some stuff out.
The whole look of the film was pretty poor too. Not very "cinematic." Felt more like a feature length BBC drama or something...
And "V" himself was all wrong. Way too talky. And ecentric when he should have engnmatic.
But. Yeah. Like. Whatever.
Not a great film by any strectch of the imagination.
V's death scene was kinda cool.
And the middle bit where - amongst other things - evey gets her hair cut and stuff were kinda cool.
Felt like the tried to shoehorn too much of the book in thou. Might have been better if they had just left some stuff out.
The whole look of the film was pretty poor too. Not very "cinematic." Felt more like a feature length BBC drama or something...
And "V" himself was all wrong. Way too talky. And ecentric when he should have engnmatic.
But. Yeah. Like. Whatever.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I loved it, thought it was good (apart from the annoying twat behind me who kept talking in french to his mate. wanker.) and the bit where the Houses of Parliament blew up was cool.
But that does not mean I want to blow things up or condone any bombings, ok?
Going to get the graphic novel to see what the orginal plot was.
But that does not mean I want to blow things up or condone any bombings, ok?
Going to get the graphic novel to see what the orginal plot was.
maya
timewasting fool (in every universe)
(sorry natalie)maya said:very lazy, black-and-white film adaptation...not surprised moore didn't want anything to do with it...
oh, and natalie portman might be lovely, but being a child actress doesn't mean you can still act as an adult...she can't
*waits for i_hate_beckham to STEAM in and FURIOUSLY defend her actorly merits*
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