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hiccup said:
Ta, interesting stuff. Being a sound engineer is a bit more complicated than just dicking about with Reason like I do in'tit?

Reason got a built-in side chaining compressor, it's pretty good,take a look at it and get your tunes sounding more, er French.
 
Erich Zann said:
Reason got a built-in side chaining compressor, it's pretty good,take a look at it and get your tunes sounding more, er French.

Just need to filter everything to fuck to make it sound french I thought :D
 
hiccup said:
Just need to filter everything to fuck to make it sound french I thought :D

yup that an all, but for vocals if you listen to almost any french house/disco choon from the last 10 years or so it's everywhere. Thomas Banglater uses it all the time.
 
Erich Zann said:
not for mac users. They can get that lofty attitude back ;)

Thanks anyway, might take a look. I assume it rewire and vst compatble

Yep, although the mac version has its disadvantages.

Rewire and VST no worries, and the Environment is a midi-phile's paradise, e.g. I easily created layers I can load in to any project that allow me to automate any of the VSTis using my controller :)
 
ICB said:
Yep, although the mac version has its disadvantages.

Rewire and VST no worries, and the Environment is a midi-phile's paradise, e.g. I easily created layers I can load in to any project that allow me to automate any of the VSTis using my controller :)


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Erich Zann said:
I downloaded the manual for v5 earlier and it doesn't mention ReWire. Odd. perhaps it only came on v5.5 up?

Came in with 4.7.3, manual is notoriously pants, although I never found a copy, just learnt from articles in CM and online tutorials. Which version have you got or does it cover gold, plat, etc. in one?

This may help http://www.ableton.com/pages/rewire/logic_pro

General intro: http://www.pcmus.com/Logic-Audio-Tutorial.htm

Some of the logic forums can be pretty unfriendly but you can usually find good stuff following free registration and a bit of searching

http://community.sonikmatter.com/

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=156

http://www.bigbluelounge.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2

http://logicprohelp.com/

http://www.logicuser.net/forum/

https://www.macprovideo.com/createaccount/
 
ICB said:
Came in with 4.7.3, manual is notoriously pants, although I never found a copy, just learnt from articles in CM and online tutorials. Which version have you got or does it cover gold, plat, etc. in one?

This may help http://www.ableton.com/pages/rewire/logic_pro

General intro: http://www.pcmus.com/Logic-Audio-Tutorial.htm

Some of the logic forums can be pretty unfriendly but you can usually find good stuff following free registration and a bit of searching

http://community.sonikmatter.com/

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=156

http://www.bigbluelounge.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2

http://logicprohelp.com/

http://www.logicuser.net/forum/

https://www.macprovideo.com/createaccount/



wow. thanks man. Sure is a lot of reading there.
Logic looks huge, gonna be a long night.
 
pk said:
..all those years spent carefully beatmatching samples on an S950 then some fucker invents Ableton so anyone can do it... :mad:
I feel your pain, PK. For me it was Sonic Foundry's 'ACID'. :mad:

Incidentally, I've got a v.5.2 Logic manual (.pdf) with a section on ReWire available by PM should anyone need it. :)
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Utterly pointless though :D

Eh? I've got a shed load of patches, things like the Akai S6000/S7000 soundbanks, that are great fun to load into ESX24 and then play around with on the keyboard. Some of the drums and the piano are great.

If the latency is higher than a few ms you get distracted by the delay between hitting the key and hearing the sound. Low latency rules :)
 
ICB said:
Eh? I've got a shed load of patches, things like the Akai S6000/S7000 soundbanks, that are great fun to load into ESX24 and then play around with on the keyboard. Some of the drums and the piano are great.

If the latency is higher than a few ms you get distracted by the delay between hitting the key and hearing the sound. Low latency rules :)
Anything below about 5 or 6 ms and you're wasting your time and risking processor glitches IMO, I've yet to meet anyone that can notice. An example - if you think about a guitar player stood 4 feet away from a speaker stack the sound will take approx 4 ms to reach his ear anyway, so why bother getting anything lower than that? :)
 
Ahh ISWYM :)

IME it's either >=12ms or <=5ms in terms of what the PC/card/software will deliver

Perhaps we get conditioned to, and hence ignore, the delay caused by the sound having to travel a short distance from speaker to ear, so that's taken out of the equation?

I agree that it has to get up to about 6 or 7 before I notice and double figures before it gets really annoying :)
 
I can't work with any latency, all my stuff is done via live note entry, drums, the lot.
 
I'm a fucking shit keyboard player but I like being able to fiddle around pretending that I can get a groove on :D
 
pk said:
all those years spent carefully beatmatching samples on an S950

That's half the fun though, this is my setup and I wouldn't have it any other way:


s950.jpg



amiga.jpg
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Anything below about 5 or 6 ms and you're wasting your time and risking processor glitches IMO, I've yet to meet anyone that can notice. An example - if you think about a guitar player stood 4 feet away from a speaker stack the sound will take approx 4 ms to reach his ear anyway, so why bother getting anything lower than that? :)

IIRC (it's been a while since I've done any music recording) I only really get irritated by latency when it gets to over 15ms.
 
Xanadu said:
IIRC (it's been a while since I've done any music recording) I only really get irritated by latency when it gets to over 15ms.
I can notice at around 8ms, and its gets to the point where I'm unhappy with it around 10...
 
fannypad said:
Hehe, is that a sigh of nostalgia or pity?


nostalgia definitely. I loved my a1200, 16bit parallel port sampler, and octamed. ex g/f nicked the lot and no doubt it all wound up in cash converters for a tenner.
I can't deny that the kit i'm using now pisses all over it but it still brings back happy memories, mainly of sensi soccer tho' :D

are you still using it now for any serious stuff, i'd be interested in hearing some.
 
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