The other thread was in the wrong forum and had a title that gave no clue as to the story. So this thread is here with a clear title. I'll merge the other thread with this one when I can be arsed....erm, where were we?
I'm a bit confused now.
This is terrible.
Jesus. Is there anything dumber than an american?
from original thread:Jesus. Is there anything dumber than an american?
jiggajagga said:Only in America. The land of the brave, free and fuck stupid!!
_float_ said:June 16, 1883: Over 180 out of 1,100 children died in the Victoria Hall disaster in Sunderland, England when they stampeded down the stairs to collect gifts from the entertainers after the end of a variety show.
November 11, 2007: 3 people were killed and more than 30 injured at the Supermarket Carrefour in Chongqing, China when the shop was offering 20% discounts on cooking oil.
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goldenecitrone said:A senseless waste of human life. What could be crazier than rushing into a shop to get cheap consumer goods?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle787707.ece
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The other thread was in the wrong forum and had a title that gave no clue as to the story. So this thread is here with a clear title. I'll merge the other thread with this one when I can be arsed.
I hope that isn't too confusing for you..
t'other threadHubby's partner from work always books time off and goes down into the States for this. They have to be there 24 hours to bring stuff back, so they spend the day before the big event making sure they know where stuff is. He was soooo happy when he got a playstation for $75 - claims he knew where to look...only 100 of them. The day prior to leaving, he was seen around work trying to borrow cell-phones, so his little army could communicate while at different stores.
We think he is an idiot!!!!
Last night, we saw ads on the telly. The shops were opening at 4 am
...and now a death. I'm not sure to shake my head with sadness or disgust.
But, have no fears - this event will reoccur next year. It will just have a couple of new safety rules.
DotCommunist said:cunts, frenzied enough to trample a man to death and for fucking what? a bargain![]()
_float_ said:People who get stuck in a large crowd which then turns into a stampede hardly ever do it on purpose - the people at the front can't get out and those at the back don't realise there is a hold up or someone has fallen over. When something happens people might panic and start to try and get the hell out in any direction, which can make things worse.
Usually the blame should be put on the people responsible for organising the event for insufficient crowd control and crowd supervision. You shouldn't try and blame individuals if they end up stuck in a situation they could not foresee.
DotCommunist said:oh I know, crowds can quickly turn ugly when fear and claustrophobia/panic set in.
If they hadn't been the sort of consumerist drones who wait for a shop to open and mob it when it does, I might have less disdain for them.
I was gonna give it the old 'never happen in britain, we know how to que'
but then I remembered that Ikea-que stabby incident
_float_ said:The kind of people for whom the savings on sale items make a big difference and who are willing to wait out on a cold street don't sound like they are rolling in spare cash, nor do they sound like the kind of fat-arsed "drones" who can just about manage to walk, eat ice-cream and stare gormlessly at shop-windows as they drift around muzac-filled malls. They definitely aren't the shopping 'élite'...
In fact it is bizarre to connected long-queues with rich and spoilt consumers
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DotCommunist said:actually, queues while historically associated with scarcity, they are not so anymore. The lines of people waiting that you talk about are those worried that an essential item/foodstuff will be all gone by the time they get thier turn. Not about saving a few dollars, and participating in a brawl for bargains that left a man dead and others injured
_float_ said:Anyone who is really well off is not going to queue for anything. Capital items can be the hardest thing to budget for if skint and while lack of clothes, cups or knick-knacks is not the same thing as food-less absolute poverty, they typically do figure in measures of 'relative poverty' or 'inequality' in rich countries.
As for 'brawling' - do you have any more details of this? Or was it an uncontrolled crowd where the unlucky people at the front suddenly tripped and got flattened by a surge/ripple that noone intended or forsaw?
Why are you blaming the victims and not the store owners who didn't provide the personnel, training, physical barriers and public information etc to control the crowd properly?
Why is this any less of an unfortunate accident than a crush at a football match, pop concert or on a crowded railway platform?

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what annoying multi-quote thing?...that annoying fucking multi-quote thing...
what annoying multi-quote thing?

I can't be arsed to read this thread, but it makes me sick that people do this type of bollox to save a quid or two.
Some people have no dignity
Ass licker
Well funnily enough, people had posted on it, didn't seem very "political" to me
But then, I am obviously a stupid twat, so what the fuck do I know?

Maybe you're not as poor as them.
Jesus. Is there anything dumber than an american?
or maybe getting the lastest and newest game/gadget/big screen tv isn't that high on her priority list.
We're talking Wal Mart, not Neiman Marcus.
Maybe you're not as poor as them.
I've seen pictures of people fighting over designer shit. You don't need designer shit
If you type people killed stampede into google, it seems that Indians have the best odds of being killed in a stampede.