US to help Libya build nuclear energy plant

[AnnO'Neemus]

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/252069C5-3B11-4F66-975B-776DEEEAED82.htm

Fo' real?!??!?

How can they do this and at the same time say that Iran doesn't have the right to develop a nuclear facility?

hypocritical f***tards

 

[Pete the Greek]

get over it mate, who knows what is discussed and decided on in the world's smoke filled rooms. We mere citizens have to be content with the scrapings that shite hacks can give us.

We do not know why this is the case and are unlikely to have the full knowledge at our desposal. So.....get over it son.

 

[newharper]

Ah, the counsel of the slave; if we had all listened to this advice then we would still be living in the dark ages.

Progress comes through conflict and strife.

Not, preferably, by violence.

 

[Yossarian]

How can they do this and at the same time say that Iran doesn't have the right to develop a nuclear facility?

hypocritical f***tards

Gaddafi’s an Islamic dictator who’s attacked a neighbouring country, sponsored international terrorism, and had a weapons of mass destruction programme – but he’s turned over a new leaf so he gets some help with a nuclear power plant??

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Gaddafi’s ... he’s turned over a new leaf so he gets some help with a nuclear power plant??

Yeah, until he does something else to p!ss them all off again, and then they'll come down like a ton of bricks on him again like they did with Saddam.

I really despair at this warped world order, I do.

 

[likesfish]

he's handed over his nuke factory and wmd's after he got bombed and after iraq he got the message get back in your box.
he's now behaving himself.
US can't really win either it comes to an accomdation with a tryant don't threaten others and we will leave you alone so its being hypocritical
or goes in for regimne change and fucks that up

 

[zoltan]

he's handed over his nuke factory and wmd's after he got bombed and after iraq he got the message get back in your box.
he's now behaving himself.
US can't really win either it comes to an accomdation with a tryant don't threaten others and we will leave you alone so its being hypocritical
or goes in for regimne change and fucks that up

He is also ( comparitively ) rich and has ( fuck all ) debt and there is a world of business to be done with Libya

 

[Andy the Don]

Would it be preferable if the French, Germans, Russians, Chinese or even the British were providing the technical expertise for the building of Libya nuclear power plants..??

 

[Fez909]

Would it be preferable if the French, Germans, Russians, Chinese or even the British were providing the technical expertise for the building of Libya nuclear power plants..??

Isn't the point that either the Americans should 'allow' Iran to have nuclear technology, or not help Libya to build a plant; but not both at the same time, or its converse, as it's a tad hypocritical?

 

[xenon]

Isn't the point that either the Americans should 'allow' Iran to have nuclear technology, or not help Libya to build a plant; but not both at the same time, or its converse, as it's a tad hypocritical?

It's not about Iran having nuclear energy. Russia has offered to help them with any such program and I believe they refused.

Libia's not much threat to Western interests. So why not help them. A nuclear armed iran on the other hand is a worrying proposition.

 

[stavros]

Gaddafi’s an Islamic dictator who’s attacked a neighbouring country, sponsored international terrorism, and had a weapons of mass destruction programme

Insert Christian for Islamic and remove "neighbouring" and you have Bush, "terrorism" being defined as "the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes".

 

[Luther Blissett]

Is there an AGRICULTURE clause built into this nuclear deal as there was with US nuclear deal to India?

In India, with the US Nuclear Deal came with

a twin agreement, and that twin agreement is on agriculture. It’s called the Knowledge Initiative on Agriculture, and on the board of this agreement are Monsanto, ADM and Wal-Mart. So a grab of the seed sector by Monsanto, of the trade sector by the giant agribusiness, and the retail sector, which is 400 million people in India, by Wal-Mart.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/13/1451229&mode=thread&tid=25

The poor are being forced off their land at gunpoint as a result.

 

[TAE]

get over it mate, who knows what is discussed and decided on in the world's smoke filled rooms. We mere citizens have to be content with the scrapings that shite hacks can give us.

We do not know why this is the case and are unlikely to have the full knowledge at our desposal. So.....get over it son.

What a sad outlook on life you have.

 

[Fez909]

It's not about Iran having nuclear energy. Russia has offered to help them with any such program and I believe they refused.

Libia's not much threat to Western interests. So why not help them. A nuclear armed iran on the other hand is a worrying proposition.

Why should Iran have to accept Russian help if they want a nuclear power plant? Why can't they have one anyway?

 

[MikeMcc]

Why should Iran have to accept Russian help if they want a nuclear power plant? Why can't they have one anyway?

Even the US doesn't care whether they have a reactor or not, just how they process and account for the fuel.

 

[XerxesVargas]

I believe the difference is that the US will be providing all the fuel for the reactor so there is limited chance that it can be used to produce plutonium.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Isn't the point that either the Americans should 'allow' Iran to have nuclear technology, or not help Libya to build a plant; but not both at the same time, or its converse, as it's a tad hypocritical?

Yeah, wot fez said.

That's my point. Either nuclear power stations are acceptable, or they're not.

It's no use saying, Oh, well, the Libyans are our friends, so that's okay. Because 10 years ago, they weren't our friends, they were bombing planes over the skies of Lockerbie.

Iran have been in and out of favour over the years. They're currently out of favour.

Who's to say whether or not in another ten years the situation might be reversed? Iran are our new best friends and Libya's out in the cold again. Or if not in 10 years, then 20, or 50?

What's the lifespan of a nuclear power plant? What's the half life of a spent fuel rod?

Whether or not we're 'friends' now is irrelevant, because diplomatic relations can be curtailed overnight.

[Personally, I don't think any more nuclear power plants should be built, anywhere, unless and until the waste issue is resolved. I think all the money that is being spent on planning and building nuclear power plants, and the money being spent on lobbying and greasing palms should instead be invested in renewables.]

 

[xenon]

If Iran had nuclear power, no one would care. They're giving the impression they want to build nuclear weaponry, according to what we're told anyway.

Some proposals to help them with a civil nuclear program, in exchange for them attempting to produce weapons grade uranium. Have evidently not been acceptable to them.


As for friends today fos tomorrow. Ever was it thus. You don't really want to ever help anyone else develop nuclear weapons in my view.

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/252069C5-3B11-4F66-975B-776DEEEAED82.htm

Fo' real?!??!?

How can they do this and at the same time say that Iran doesn't have the right to develop a nuclear facility?

hypocritical f***tards

The US? Hypocrites?

Never....

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

If Iran had nuclear power, no one would care. They're giving the impression they want to build nuclear weaponry, according to what we're told anyway.

Some proposals to help them with a civil nuclear program, in exchange for them attempting to produce weapons grade uranium. Have evidently not been acceptable to them.

The Iranian constitution [section 3:13] (that's the one sanctioned by 90-odd % of the electorate after they kicked out the US/UK imposed puppets in 1979) is pretty clear on the issue of not being dependent upon other nations for their energy security.

That said, there are some rather unequivocal technical reasons as to Why Nuclear Power Cannot Be A Major Energy Source.

 

[xenon]

Interesting links. BaB. Tar.

Dirty businesses. Politix and energy. Inextricably linked as they are now particularly.