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pbman said:
Of course. A good friend of mine was down their last winter.

And no he's not a racist, that charge is low rent commie propganda.

Is it true they get to shoot Mexicans sometimes?
 
foreigner said:
Ah, but he's a tramp. You can't compare poverty with mental illness and addiction, for all you know he could be a millionaire. But since even American poverty can lead to mental illness and addiction, I'll accept your point.

NUmbers lie all the time in the us, i know people with an extreamly low income on paper, that own a shitload of land.

They are counted as poor by the gov't.

They are not poor by any real standard. In several cases they owe nothing on the land and own it free and clear, and have lots of money in the bank as well. But you can have millions in the bank and the gov't will count you as being poor, if your income is low.

Like if you lost money on stocks or whatever that year...............

What did twain say? lies damn lies and statistics.

Now their a fourth catoagory, gov't statistics.
 
foreigner said:
Is it true they get to shoot Mexicans sometimes?

Hardly, they have more rights than the rest of us.

Last year some rancher tempararily restrained an illegal, and he sued him and took his ranch away.
 
pbman said:
NUmbers lie all the time in the us, i know people with an extreamly low income on paper, that own a shitload of land.

They are counted as poor by the gov't.

They are not poor by any real standard. In several cases they owe nothing on the land and own it free and clear, and have lots of money in the bank as well. But you can have millions in the bank and the gov't will count you as being poor, if your income is low.

Like if you lost money on stocks or whatever that year...............

What did twain say? lies damn lies and statistics.

Now their a fourth catoagory, gov't statistics.

And a fifth - pbMan FUD
 
rocketman said:
Keep your oh-so-clever Internet abbreviations for people who care about it - you know, you and the others like you talking into their sleeves.

Its not an internet abbreviation. :rolleyes:

Its from real life. :rolleyes:

FNG
 
PB, how many of the people counted as poor are really wealthy people (land owners, millions in the bank etc.)? Come on! You know perfectly well that there are many poor people in the US.
 
JHE said:
PB, how many of the people counted as poor are really wealthy people (land owners, millions in the bank etc.)? Come on! You know perfectly well that there are many poor people in the US.

Of course their are many poor, but who the hell knows how many.

Not the gov't.

They don't want to know, as they want more money...............

Just remmber low income makes you poor in america, not net worth.
 
Bob_the_lost said:
Your healthcare system is rather barbaric peebs, so yes, not as well as in the UK for example.

Your is primative as hell compared to ours. Try opening your eyes instead of spewing propganda. I know far to many canadians, we come here for treatment.

Care to admit why that is?
 
pbman said:
But not as good as europeans socalists. :rolleyes:

So you admit that socialism delivers a far better quality of life and human dignity for far more people then the system in your country.
 
pbman said:
Quite apart from the fact that J/J's comment was a fair response to what you had posted up to that point, I'm not sure that you are in the strongest position to jeer at anyone else's level of literacy.

****​

Talking of literacy... on the site you link, there is the following poll question.

If the excercises on this site could be spoken aloud while you work on them, how unique would that make them?

  • very unique
  • somewhat unique
  • not unique
"Very unique"? "Somewhat unique"? In American English, are there degrees of uniqueness?

Unless I am completely out of date on this, in English - or at least in Brit. Eng. - something is either unique (i.e., the only one) or not.
 
pbman said:
Your is primative as hell compared to ours. Try opening your eyes instead of spewing propganda. I know far to many canadians, we come here for treatment.

Care to admit why that is?

Coz they're rich Canadians
 
pbman said:
yawn
You still pissed about me chatching you talking out of your ass yesterday?
ROFLMAO
Think a little more next time. :p

You caught me talking out of MY ass? I don't think so, "pardner".

The way you work, whoever you are, is that you peddle your rubbish assumptions around, and because you say them and believe them, you think they are true.

So, if we had a discussion about colour, and I said black is black, but you believed black to be white, you would resist all arguments and any evidence to cling to your assumption.

So, simply because you think you caught me "talking out my ass" as you so eruditely articulate it, you believe it to be true.

:rolleyes:

This wasn't the case, as anyone checking previous chats between us will decide themselves, whatever you, or for that matter, I, say.
 
pbman said:
Your is primative as hell compared to ours. Try opening your eyes instead of spewing propganda. I know far to many canadians, we come here for treatment.

Care to admit why that is?

Nonsense point.
Plenty of British people go to India to get operations done.
It doesn't make India's health system superior to Britain's.
 
sihhi said:
Nonsense point.
Plenty of British people go to India to get operations done.
It doesn't make India's health system superior to Britain's.

Tell that to people on the waiting list.

Our is supieor couse we have the equipment and people to provide all the needed care.

If your poor, SSI, takes care of the bill.

You guys like the UK system, because is fairer.......equaly shity.
 
rocketman said:
You caught me talking out of MY ass? I don't think so, "pardner".

The way you work, whoever you are, is that you peddle your rubbish assumptions around, and because you say them and believe them, you think they are true.

So, if we had a discussion about colour, and I said black is black, but you believed black to be white, you would resist all arguments and any evidence to cling to your assumption.

So, simply because you think you caught me "talking out my ass" as you so eruditely articulate it, you believe it to be true.



This wasn't the case, as anyone checking previous chats between us will decide themselves, whatever you, or for that matter, I, say.

Your living in denial i see.

Just for once i would like to see, an FNG act differnt.
 
JHE said:
Quite apart from the fact that J/J's comment was a fair response to what you had posted up to that point, I'm not sure that you are in the strongest position to jeer at anyone else's level of literacy.

****​

Talking of literacy... on the site you link, there is the following poll question.

"Very unique"? "Somewhat unique"? In American English, are there degrees of uniqueness?

Unless I am completely out of date on this, in English - or at least in Brit. Eng. - something is either unique (i.e., the only one) or not.

No those terms are only used by people that make up questions like that......you only see them on tests or whatever.

Not in actual use.

And yes i can sneer, at people reading comprehention, i'm in the very top %.

I just can't spell.

Feel free to jear if yuou like. :D
 
pbman said:
Tell that to people on the waiting list.

Our is supieor couse we have the equipment and people to provide all the needed care.

If your poor, SSI, takes care of the bill.

You guys like the UK system, because is fairer.......equaly shity.

Clearly your medical service must be better than your education service, as your spelling is consistently appalling. I mean - how many badly spelt posts?
Anyway, being such a good american I would have expected you to be driving down to New Orleans to see if you could help people there?
But I forget, for you helping people is always something somebody else does.
Where in the US wealth equation are you? Are you in the top few per cent? Or are you simply a useful idiot?
 
rocketman said:
Clearly your medical service must be better than your education service, as your spelling is consistently appalling. I mean - how many badly spelt posts?
Anyway, being such a good american I would have expected you to be driving down to New Orleans to see if you could help people there?
But I forget, for you helping people is always something somebody else does.
Where in the US wealth equation are you? Are you in the top few per cent? Or are you simply a useful idiot?

I live to miss=sp[ell. :D

ASk anyone.

Its so much fun.
 
pbman said:
If your poor, SSI, takes care of the bill.
Apparently, there are millions of people who have no health cover in the US.

For example:
US veterans with no health cover nearly 1,700,000

20 Oct 2004

According to a new study, nearly 1,700,000 US veterans had no health care cover at all in 2003. The study was carried out by Physicians for National Health Program and the Public Citizen group.

According to the report most of the vets have jobs.

In 2000, 9.9% of vets were uninsured, in 2003 the figure rose to 11.9% - an increase of 235,159. 30% of veterans under 25 and 10% of those 45-65 have no health cover.

At a news conference, Dr. Steffie Woolhandler of Harvard Medical School, said "Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working people. And uninsured veterans are denied the care they need -- turned away because they can't pay."

In January 2003, the US government suspended eligibility for Category 8 veterans (middle income veterans earning $25,000 plus per year). The report was highly critical of this move.

Dr. Sidney Wolfe, Director of Public Citizen's Health Research Group, said "The armed services are aggressive in encouraging people to join the military to serve their country and to be all you can be. But after leaving the service, almost 1.7 million veterans do not have the right to health care, in a way, being discarded by the government after serving their country. Without access to health care, no one can be all that they can be."

In this study, no health care cover means - no private insurance, no access to Medicare or Medicaid or to any Veteran programs either.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=15234
 
pbman said:
I live to miss=sp[ell. :D
ASk anyone.
Its so much fun.

At this stage, I must respectfully decline to engage in some personal exchange between us. This thread is designed to examine the inequality of the division of wealth in the US, and I have to say that at this point your comments are serving to derail that discussion.
If you have something constructive to add to the debate, I'm sure we would all welcome it, but otherwise it would probably be advantageous if you left us to it. Thank you.
 
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