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US elections - voting day, results and what not!

embree

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Apologies to the other thread, from what I can see it seems to have gone way off topic.

So, voting day is nigh and almost two years of campaigning comes to a climax.

The US is expecting the biggest turnout in history tomorrow - between 134 and 140 million people are expected to cast their votes for the next President. States that allow early voting have seen record numbers turn out over the past two weeks. Some early analyses of how these voters break down (such as in North Carolina and Georgia) suggest that enormous numbers of African Americans, Latinos and young people are turning out to vote, all in excess of the usual figures.

Barack Obama has been ahead in practically every poll for the last three months and the final poll of polls on RealClearPolitics puts Obama 51-44 ahead. No Democrat has won more than 50% of the popular vote since Carter in 1976.

Of course, the polls can be wrong. Some people expect to see a Bradley Effect, where voters lie to pollsters about their intention to vote for the black candidate and then break for the white one. On the other hand, we could see the reverse - people who intend to vote for Obama but won't admit it to their friends, neighbours or even pollsters. Numerous other effects are hypothesised which could show up the pollsters on the day but I do wonder whether their methodology takes into account the larger numbers of non-white and young voters expected to turn out. People who may be put down as less likely to vote and given less weight by pollsters may well be turning out more heavily than thought - and of course many of these may have already voted, with Florida early voting figures at around 50% of the total 2004 turnout already.

Because of this, I reckon Obama could manage a landslide on a larger scale than predicted, with maybe one or two genuine surprises - anyone for Georgia or Louisiana turning blue? How about McCain getting turned over in his home state? The Obama volunteers seem to have been swarming everywhere, outnumbering McCain's people many times over. They're busting a gut to squeeze every last vote out they can get and the GOP just don't have the manpower to fight back. Then there's the enthusiasm disparity - Obama's rallies attract 10s of thousands whilst McCain managed only around a 1000 in Tampa the other day when Bush spoke to around 15000 there on the eve of the last election. This is a picture repeated all over, the Republicans simply don't seem to be at all inspired by their man and in the face of Democrat poll leads how many will turn out for him? I certainly think there's a possibility that the soft Republican vote may decide to stay at home when, given the size of the early Democrat turn out, McCain simply has to get his vote out in numbers to stand a chance.

My prediction: Obama with more than 300 electoral college votes and the result obvious fairly early on when Virginia goes for him.

If anyone wants to do stuff on the Senate/House races feel free, I'm knackered after all that!
 
nope, just a very interested observer who's spent far too long online today reading about it from all angles!
 
nope, just a very interested observer who's spent far too long online today reading about it from all angles!

Oh okay...I admit to having an unusually big interest this time. It's an important election on many levels.

I wondering what to do tomorrow night.....I was thinking a very early night and then get up to join the fun around 4.

Chances are I'll not be able to sleep though, let's see.:)
 
Oh okay...I admit to having an unusually big interest this time. It's an important election on many levels.

I wondering what to do tomorrow night.....I was thinking a very early night and then get up to join the fun around 4.

Chances are I'll not be able to sleep though, let's see.:)

me too. The beeb and ITV start before midnight but first results are due around, what, 2am?

My net connection's in a different room to the telly as well. Decisions, decisions...
 
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ is now calculating that McCain has just a 1.9% chance of winning.

The polls in Pennsylvania have not closed at all, with Obama holding a 6-9% advantage. Without Pennsylvania, McCain has to win pretty much every battleground state to win the White House and that aint likely.

Very sad news that Obama's grandmother has died - but perhaps this will generate an extra sympathy vote for him.

Wait for Virginia - when it's called for Obama, goodnight Vienna
 
Karl Rove reckons Obama 338 to McCain 200. Yes, that Karl Rove.

538.com reckons:

Safe McCain:
Alaska
Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
Idaho
Kansas
Kentucky
Lousiana
Mississippi
Nebraska (West)
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Wyoming

Likely McCain:
Georgia

Leaning McCain:
Indiana
Montana
North Dakota
Nebraska (East)
Nebraska (Omaha)

Safe Obama:
California
Colorado
Connecticut
DC
Delaware
Hawaii
Iowa
Illinois
Massachusets
Maryland
Maine (South)
Maine (North)
Michigan
Minnesota
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Virginia
Vermont
Washington
Wisconsin

Likely Obama:
Florida

Leaning Obama:
Nevada
Ohio

Toss up:
Missouri
North Carolina

Maine & Nebraska allocate their college votes by congressional district which is why they're in multiple times.

for additional fun, check out the likely landslides in certain places - DC will probably go 90% for Obama, well over 60% in Hawaii, California, NY, Illinois and across New England and the mid Atlantic coast
 
the last US election was one of the most depressing times in my life

one of my best mates ran off with one of my other best mates girlfriend, john peel died, and then cheney and co got another 4 years of stealing legitamised. strangely enough this tied in with me spending a lot of my life being a drunk 'joker' on here:(

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Obama by a very big margin i should think the black vote will come out strongly and also the white working class .its kind of like blair in 97 i hope to a diety that he does a better job .So is it tuesday night brit time i was not sure will caretainly be watching
 
I feel something about the election tomorrow. It isn't anxiety; not trepidation. A bit like nervousness.

It's a turning point in US history, and one of their most important elections in decades. It's been said that at this point in time, the US requires a Roosevelt, a Lincoln even, to get and keep the country on keel. And the election of a black president, should such occur, signals the beginning of a potential sea change in that country.
 
I feel something about the election tomorrow. It isn't anxiety; not trepidation. A bit like nervousness.
its almost 3am EST here and i'm watching mccain doing a live speech in prescott, arizona. same old lame bullshit. he doesn't look very optimistic. oh well.
 
Can't help but think Obama is a US version of Toneh, but having a mixed heri prez of the US is a BIG and GOOD thing (and I suppose owt is better than more of the same murdering Ultra-Right shite) so I hope Barack wins it regardless.

Don't really understand the voting system, so I'll say 3-1 to Obama in normal time.
 
Obama by a very big margin i should think the black vote will come out strongly and also the white working class .its kind of like blair in 97 i hope to a diety that he does a better job .So is it tuesday night brit time i was not sure will caretainly be watching

I read somewhere that a third of Democrat voters were taking the day off while 95% of Republicans would be at work. Multiple reasons - often Democrat areas have longer queues to vote but it can also mean that Dems are more determined their vote will be registered today and that a lot of Dems are working to get the vote out all day.

The enthusiasm differential alone should see the Democrats home across the board, they've been ultra determined to get it right this year
 
word is, electoral earthquake due in Georgia - over 2 million early votes (only 3.3 million voted state wide four years ago), huge queues to vote expected all day in Democrat heavy Atlanta.

Georgia could be Obama's 'Portillo moment'
 
How Mcain Could Win

Reporter Greg Palast who uncovered the black voter purges in Florida during the 2000 election looks at how the Democrats are still at a big disadvantage.

According to Palast there will be millions of Democratic votes dis-qualified. For example, 19.4% in swing state Colorado have been made ineligable by the Help America Vote Act, signed by George Bush in 2002.
 
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