URGENT advice please!
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1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
It is a grievance and thanks to some amazing help by PM will be dispatching it tomorrow!
This really is an amazing place to hang out when you've got a problem!!
Thanks Urban
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Hope it all goes well for Mrs 27. If her work are going to be crappy could she not take early leave by getting signed off??
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
init!
and if that don't work we'll get the Cardiff U75 collective ahem muscle together!
<joking obv!>
good luck tomorrow and doing the gits over
avu9lives
famous five member
crustychick
doo-woop-de-doo
oh my, all this sounds really horrible... they sound like a right nasty bunch of fuckers, putting a pregnant woman through all this, trying to scrinch a few pennies from their budget....
my advice, lodge a grievance, then go off on the sick with stress, this is no good for your good lady or your unborn child. they should know better. shame.
Hello,
I am an HR manager so thought I'd add my bit to the already good advice.
If you contract states 34 hours p/w then they can not force you to reduce those hours. At least not in the way they have as to do that would mean dismissing you and issuing a new contract.
What we do is ask our care staff to work reduced hours but we maintain thier pay at the level the contract states.
They are trying to shaft you basically and you musn't let them.
Good luck,
I am an HR manager so thought I'd add my bit to the already good advice.
If you contract states 34 hours p/w then they can not force you to reduce those hours. At least not in the way they have as to do that would mean dismissing you and issuing a new contract.
What we do is ask our care staff to work reduced hours but we maintain thier pay at the level the contract states.
They are trying to shaft you basically and you musn't let them.
Good luck,
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
God what a bunch of horrible greedy bastards 
- sorry for the missus 1927, must be well stressful! 
Sounds from the great advice given here though, that they haven't got a chance of getting away with it, so I hope that's made her feel more positive, but still just the fact that you both need to expend any fucking time and energy sorting it out is a great big pain in the arse eh?
Well worth it if it makes them think twice the next time though.... 
Good luck!
- sorry for the missus 1927, must be well stressful! Sounds from the great advice given here though, that they haven't got a chance of getting away with it, so I hope that's made her feel more positive, but still just the fact that you both need to expend any fucking time and energy sorting it out is a great big pain in the arse eh?
Well worth it if it makes them think twice the next time though....
Good luck!
LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
and suspenders????
OOH IM grring at the thought. It doesnt sound like its going to be "were very sorry, were a bunch of cunts"
OOH IM grring at the thought. It doesnt sound like its going to be "were very sorry, were a bunch of cunts"
no , more like the "this is our position, we understand mrs 1927 position to be X and we look forward to you agreeing to *diametrically opposed position Y" bollocks
LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
Maybe the shock has them in the maternity ward as we speak?
scifisam
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Edit: Bugger, I somehow managed to miss most of the thread!
I presume you're getting everything that's said in writing, with names on, signed of possible?
It's only a pregnancy, for God's sake - it's not as if it's an entirely new circumstance for employers of workers in care settings; they should be able to deal with it.
I presume you're getting everything that's said in writing, with names on, signed of possible?
It's only a pregnancy, for God's sake - it's not as if it's an entirely new circumstance for employers of workers in care settings; they should be able to deal with it.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Sorry folks fell asleep the other night and have been so busy with decorating and stuff that tinternet has been a luxury time does not afford.
Anyway HR came down today and interviewed Mrs27 and were very supportive. Having read all the correspondence and stuff wec opied to them they actually piucked up on stuff that we hadn't mentioned in the grievance. Like the fact that Mrs27 was only given 24hours notice of the original hearing and that the company policy, probably law too, says that 3 full days notice be given. They have said that they will let us know in 2 weeks time, as they still have to interview the bitch in question who doesnt even know about the grievance yet!
All this is going to be too late for Mrs27 cos she does her last shift on sunday, but as she said in meeting today atleast if the outcome is correct the bitch won't be able to do it to anyone else again!
Anyway HR came down today and interviewed Mrs27 and were very supportive. Having read all the correspondence and stuff wec opied to them they actually piucked up on stuff that we hadn't mentioned in the grievance. Like the fact that Mrs27 was only given 24hours notice of the original hearing and that the company policy, probably law too, says that 3 full days notice be given. They have said that they will let us know in 2 weeks time, as they still have to interview the bitch in question who doesnt even know about the grievance yet!
All this is going to be too late for Mrs27 cos she does her last shift on sunday, but as she said in meeting today atleast if the outcome is correct the bitch won't be able to do it to anyone else again!
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Well she finishes work on sunday, so I dont really see what else we can do!
Be careful before you trust the company's HR. They are not on your side.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
very true!
they'll make it all better....on the cheap and whilst covering their arses
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
It depends how far she wants to take it tbh. She has still been discriminated against ... even if she hasn't lost £s now as a result. You don't know what they're going to be like during her maternity leave and on her return. I suggest following the grievance through even though she's going to be on maternity leave from Sunday.
If she follows it through, she can then decide whether to go further if they don't find in her favour.
And if they find in her favour, there's a line drawn in the sand so if anything else happens during her maternity leave and on return she might have a victimisation claim.
Plus, as you quite rightly say, there's the issue of other people in the future.
But tis all easy to say I guess, she's the one having to worry about it when she should just be able to get on with her pregnancy. It's always tricky and that's why this sort of thing still happens a lot.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Received a letter today with outcome of grievance, HR found in favor of Mrs27 and basically agreed with everything she said, with some exceptions which she couldn't find either way.
So Mrs27 gets written apology for all teh shit, final written warning withdrawn, and all half shifts paid as full shifts. All in all a tidy result. The bitch who caused all the shit has been instructed to refer all disciplinary stuff to HR as the letter states she was unaware of company policy or law.
The letter from HR was very detailed and to be fair she had obvioulsy conducted a very thorough investigation, we were both very impressed by the manner in which she has handled it all, and she hasn't as I suspected she might come down on side of company. Having said that we had so much in writing and documented evidence that it would have been hard not to agree with Mrs27, a good day tho.
Thanks to everyone who offered advice especially those who spent considerable efforts to send detailed PMs.
So Mrs27 gets written apology for all teh shit, final written warning withdrawn, and all half shifts paid as full shifts. All in all a tidy result. The bitch who caused all the shit has been instructed to refer all disciplinary stuff to HR as the letter states she was unaware of company policy or law.
The letter from HR was very detailed and to be fair she had obvioulsy conducted a very thorough investigation, we were both very impressed by the manner in which she has handled it all, and she hasn't as I suspected she might come down on side of company. Having said that we had so much in writing and documented evidence that it would have been hard not to agree with Mrs27, a good day tho.
Thanks to everyone who offered advice especially those who spent considerable efforts to send detailed PMs.
chainsaw cat
Tea. Biccies. Happy now?
Good result, well done for standing up for yourselves at a difficult time.
I'm a very recent parent mesen, so truly heartfelt best wishes for the new arrival, hope it all goes perfectly.
I'm a very recent parent mesen, so truly heartfelt best wishes for the new arrival, hope it all goes perfectly.
