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[heinous seamus]

Gawd, took forever when we got down to 4.

I better mention my luckboxing, hellbilly had been reraising me a lot so when I got dealt AJ I was hoping he would reraise so I could shove!

NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee, Level:8 Blinds(200/400-25 ante) - Sunday, May 24, 22:41:06 GMT 2009
WSOP Vegas Daily Sat to Final #245806
Table 1 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 4
Seat 3: bigtam ( 20,521 )
Seat 5: Hellbilly ( 9,431 )
Seat 6: BETEASEco ( 11,301 )
Seat 9: philly ( 8,747 )
Tourney Level:8 Blinds(200/400-25 ante)
philly posts ante [25]
BETEASEco posts ante [25]
Hellbilly posts ante [25]
bigtam posts ante [25]
Hellbilly posts small blind [200]
BETEASEco posts big blind [400]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bigtam [ Ad, Js ]
philly folds
bigtam raises to [1,000]
Hellbilly raises to [2,700]
BETEASEco folds
bigtam goes all-in
bigtam raises to [20,496]
Hellbilly calls [6,706]
Hellbilly goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [11,090] to bigtam
** Showdown **
bigtam shows [ Ad, Js ]
Hellbilly shows [ Qh, Ac ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 9h, 8d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
** Hand Conclusion **
bigtam wins 19,312 from main pot with a straight, Queen to Eight

I saw you on the table ymu but you ignored me last time I said hello

 

[fractionMan]

nh sir ^^

gl in the final. it'd be sick if you do it again

 

[ymu]

Sorry seamus - I didn't realise it was you. If I ignored you before, it was because I don't follow chat much. Bit single-minded at the table.

I was just waiting for a chance to trap Hellbilly for all his chips too. My jacks got cracked before I had the chance.

 

[ymu]

Heh. Just won a $5 rebuy. $234.

Spent about $50 on rebuys though.

And I busted out on the final table of a level 2 satellite for the WSOP package. Gotta try and see you on that final table next Sunday seamus.

 

[ymu]

The rebuy was interesting actually. Only 5 places paid, so it was playing very tight on the bubble. With 7 to go there was one huge stack, three medium stacks and three small stacks. Then I (a medium stack) doubled up off the another medium stack, leaving us with two huge stacks, one medium and three short on the bubble. When I say short, it was a very deep-stacked tournament, so they all had 20-30BB left.

I started stealing a lot, and they just folded. And folded. Soon I had more than half the chips on the table without seeing a flop. Then I just started calling any shortie all-ins on my BB because doubling them up didn't matter - the bubble was being very good to me - so they stopped pushing my blinds. Then I started reraising the medium stacks all-in if they tried to steal. They just froze. And after the bubble burst, they were exactly the same! The one remaining big stack wanted to make the final two, so he let me beat up the shorties alone, and they were determined to creep up a place.

With three to go, the other big stack finally got fed up of me raising his blinds and called a pot-sized raised with K2o. I had J9o. The flop came KQT. I bet, he pushed, and we were down to the final two with 225k chips vs 12k, blinds at 1600.

 

[heinous seamus]

Sorry seamus - I didn't realise it was you. If I ignored you before, it was because I don't follow chat much. Bit single-minded at the table.

I was just waiting for a chance to trap Hellbilly for all his chips too. My jacks got cracked before I had the chance.

Hah, no worries I figured you either didn't know who I was or didn't see.

Sounds like you owned that rebuy

 

[ymu]

It was ridiculous. I was playing 80/80 and didn't get reraised once. The medium stack to my left started calling and floating a bit, but he always folded by the fourth bullet.

I suppose I did change gears a couple of times - I was getting deepish in another tournament so they got a break when I had a big hand brewing over there - but still.

 

[ymu]

Just made a royal flush.

My third, out of five I've ever seen.

 

[fractionMan]

Is anyone else on bodog?

I've got a few quid lying around elsewhere but my main game is on there nowadays.

 

[heinous seamus]

Just got bust in massively overlaid sat by some goon with 97s

 

[fractionMan]

nice overshove

Hero (SB): $242.00
BB: $53.00
UTG: $87.95
CO: $118.40
BTN: $106.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with Th Jd
UTG raises to $3.00, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($15.00) Kc Qd 5h (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN bets $10.00, Hero calls $10, BB folds, UTG calls $10, CO calls $10

Turn: ($55.00) Ah (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN bets $93 all in, Hero calls $93, UTG folds, CO folds

River: ($241.00) 8h (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $241.00
Hero shows Th Jd
BTN shows Kh 7h
BTN wins $239.00
(Rake: $2.00)

 

[ymu]

So here's a hand.

Earlyish in a rebuy tournament. Half the players haven't rebought but villain and I have - we're both still on about twice the starting stack. He's been fairly LAGgro, raising a lot and can be trusted to bet if checked to.

He open raised to 4 BB after one limper. I'm in the SB with 8d8c. I call, as does the BB and the limper.

The flop comes down something like Td4h5d.

I check, planning to check-raise if it checks to him and he bets.

It checks to him and he bets, about 2/3 of the pot.

I raise full pot, putting about half my stack in. BB and the limper fold. Villain reraises all in.

What do I do?

 

[heinous seamus]

I call. Half stack in and tons of draws. And if it's on betfair he has KQ no diamonds, but hits a runner-runner straight.

I always find a reason to call though, I'm a total station

 

[fractionMan]

throw up a bit in your mouth and fold imo.

I'm not sure you have enough equity against his draws, most of which are flips at best. Alll this made hands beat you. The best case is a straight draw no diamonds, but I can't see him shoving it knowing you've made what looks like a commiting bet. Ax of hearts have 12 outs or so with overs so that's a 60/40. He could quite easily be shoving a ten as there are so many draws out.

I'd start by not check raising the flop.

 

[heinous seamus]

nice overshove

Hero (SB): $242.00
BB: $53.00
UTG: $87.95
CO: $118.40
BTN: $106.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with Th Jd
UTG raises to $3.00, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($15.00) Kc Qd 5h (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN bets $10.00, Hero calls $10, BB folds, UTG calls $10, CO calls $10

Turn: ($55.00) Ah (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN bets $93 all in, Hero calls $93, UTG folds, CO folds

River: ($241.00) 8h (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $241.00
Hero shows Th Jd
BTN shows Kh 7h
BTN wins $239.00
(Rake: $2.00)

Ouuuch.

 

[ymu]

Psychic!

That was my read. He had KcQc.

Spiked a Q on the turn, obv.

 

[heinous seamus]

Been playing on betfair years now, I'd recognise that move anytime

 

[fractionMan]

must go to bed dammit!

KQc lol

 

[ymu]

throw up a bit in your mouth and fold imo.

I'm not sure you have enough equity against his draws, most of which are flips at best. Alll this made hands beat you. The best case is a straight draw no hearts, but I can't see him shoving it knowing you've made what looks like a commiting bet.

I'd start by not check raising the flop.

What draws can he have that he'd raise with pre-flop? Only big diamonds - and he bets too often to give him credit for that every time.

I check-raised because he was more likely to have missed with two high cards than he was to have a higher pair. I couldn't bet into three players - but if he c-bets in position, I'm a huge favourite to be ahead.

 

[heinous seamus]

NL Texas Hold'em $4 Buy-in + $0.25 Entry Fee, Level:1 Blinds(10/20-(no ante)) - Sunday, May 24, 20:03:56 GMT 2009
$4+$0.25 NL Hold'em #2997533
Table 1 2-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 2
Seat 1: Cobrasik ( 1,300 )
Seat 2: bigtam ( 1,700 )
Tourney Level:1 Blinds(10/20-(no ante))
Cobrasik posts small blind [10]
bigtam posts big blind [20]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bigtam [ As, Ac ]
Cobrasik raises to [80]
bigtam raises to [140]
Cobrasik calls [60]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 2c, Tc ]
bigtam checks
Cobrasik bets [280]
bigtam raises to [560]
Cobrasik goes all-in
Cobrasik raises to [1,160]
bigtam calls [600]
** Showdown **
Cobrasik shows [ Kh, Qh ]
bigtam shows [ As, Ac ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
** Hand Conclusion **
Cobrasik wins 2,600 from main pot with a straight, Ace to Ten

It might only be 4 dollars, but that shit HURTS, dammit!

(Please ignore all the benny min-raising, I promise that's not my normal protocol)

 

[fractionMan]

What draws can he have that he'd raise with pre-flop? Only big diamonds - and he bets too often to give him credit for that every time.

I check-raised because he was more likely to have missed with two high cards than he was to have a higher pair. I couldn't bet into three players - but if he c-bets in position, I'm a huge favourite to be ahead.

I agree, but when he shoves you're generally committed but fucked with two outs or he's got a 15 outer himself, unless he's terrible and got KQc.

what was the buyin/structure? I think that affects the play in these things. I'm only decent at deep stacked slow structures tbh.

 

[fractionMan]

NL Texas Hold'em $4 Buy-in + $0.25 Entry Fee, Level:1 Blinds(10/20-(no ante)) - Sunday, May 24, 20:03:56 GMT 2009
$4+$0.25 NL Hold'em #2997533
Table 1 2-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 2
Seat 1: Cobrasik ( 1,300 )
Seat 2: bigtam ( 1,700 )
Tourney Level:1 Blinds(10/20-(no ante))
Cobrasik posts small blind [10]
bigtam posts big blind [20]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bigtam [ As, Ac ]
Cobrasik raises to [80]
bigtam raises to [140]
Cobrasik calls [60]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 2c, Tc ]
bigtam checks
Cobrasik bets [280]
bigtam raises to [560]
Cobrasik goes all-in
Cobrasik raises to [1,160]
bigtam calls [600]
** Showdown **
Cobrasik shows [ Kh, Qh ]
bigtam shows [ As, Ac ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
** Hand Conclusion **
Cobrasik wins 2,600 from main pot with a straight, Ace to Ten

It might only be 4 dollars, but that shit HURTS, dammit!

(Please ignore all the benny min-raising, I promise that's not my normal protocol)

loooool brutal. the old KQ no draw.

 

[heinous seamus]

I just ran it through an odds calculator, he was 2.12% when the money went it!

Even though it was only 4 dollars, and I was barely paying attention, it still set me on major life tilt

 

[ymu]

I agree, but when he shoves you're generally committed but fucked with two outs or he's got a 15 outer himself, unless he's terrible and got KQc.

what was the buyin/structure? I think that affects the play in these things. I'm only decent at deep stacked slow structures tbh.

I'm not sure I can see a fold getting 3:1 against someone who has shown all the appearances of being a bad LAG. Equity is complicated because it depends what probabilities I'm giving to the different bits of his range.

There are EV implications for future hands too - if he can push me off a pot when I've put half my stack in, after I have shown strength with a check-raise... Well, if the table has half a brain I'm going to be facing a lot of tough decisions after that.

It was a $5 rebuy, 15 minute levels. Deep and slow. I'd do the same in a freezeout - build a stack or bust out, I'm playing to win, not just survive. Getting stacked in a rebuy is OK as long as it's +cEV decision - if I lose the chips will still be on the table for me to win back. The real bugger about that hand was that he got whisked off to another table two minutes later so we had a relatively impoverished table. Until my KK got cracked by QQ and my AK lost to AQ, obv. Then we were nice and deep again.

 

[ymu]

I stacked him on the final table, by the way. Got it all back with interest.

 

[DexterTCN]

> gree posted small blind (10)
> leeh123 posted big blind (20)
> Game # 2,628,428,701 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards(9d Kd )
> DexterTCN raised for 20
> Lionclaw folded
> jamesmahon folded
> gree called for 30
> leeh123 called for 20
> Dealing the Flop(5c 4h 5d )
> gree checked
> leeh123 checked
> DexterTCN bet for 140
> gree called for 140
> leeh123 folded
> Dealing the Turn(4c )
> gree checked
> DexterTCN bet for 200
> gree called for 200
> Dealing the River(4d )
> gree checked
> DexterTCN bet for 800
> gree folded
> DexterTCN mucked
> DexterTCN wins 1,600

 

[fractionMan]

I stacked him on the final table, by the way. Got it all back with interest.

nice

I'd probably do the same in your position with that hand, just not be very happy about it. You're right about folding, it's not really an option. I just would hate to be in the position where I have to call I guess. In cash games sticking all my chips in with second pair isn't something I do very often

 

[ymu]

You min-raised K9s UTG? And then bluffed the river in position against a guy who had check-called two sizeable bullets already?

Flop and turn I like. Pre-flop and river, you should be shot.

 

[DexterTCN]

Yeah!

 

[ymu]

nice

I'd probably do the same in your position with that hand, just not be very happy about it. You're right about folding, it's not really an option. I just would hate to be in the position where I have to call I guess. In cash games sticking all my chips in with second pair isn't something I do very often

The problem was the other two pre-flop callers really. I'd formulated a perfectly good plan - to check-raise him if he bet when checked to because I was 95% sure I was ahead at that point - but I hadn't factored in quite how expensive that was going to be. It's not great to get pot-committed with that kind of hand. If I'd known he was that aggro, I'd have bet out so that I could 3-bet all in when he raised me - he'd pretty much have to fold, unless his ego is totally out of control.

But hey - I got the chips in as a 3:1 favourite. No complaints. I did OK in Sklansky-dollars.