Urban75 Album of the Year 1998

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by belboid, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    For me, it’s a combination of the imagery in the lyrics, the instrumentation (such great brass), and its general other worldliness. It’s naivety is quite magnificent - "When you were young..." as King of Carrot Flowers” opens – it’s that wonderful innocence and hope. Combined with seeing sex in everything. There’s the bizarre incongruence about songs about Anne Frank being just so bloody joyous and danceable. And then there’s “I love you Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, I love you, yes I do” which is, in many ways, probably the bravest line ever committed to vinyl by an alt-rock band.

    And the melodies are just to die for.
     
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  2. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    I am immediately minded to say 'No' but will give it proper consideration
     
  3. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Then you ve got me totally wrong. Disappointed tbh. I like arguing about music, but it's always my real opinion.
     
  4. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    Fair enough. I believe you.
     
  5. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    Disappointing album but then what do you get with some demo tracks and unfinished recordings by someone who died.However I liked this track

     
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  6. The39thStep

    The39thStep Well-Known Member

    and this is just beautiful

     
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  7. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    I'm only contrary to shiite music.
     
  8. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    surely the definition of shite music is in the ear of the beholder sorta thing - so someone else might listen to your favourite song and hate it , and visa versa.
     
  9. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    This is sort of true, but it's also a cop-out. It means there's no point in even attempting to critique art.
     
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  10. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    I can dig this.
     
  11. Dr. Furface

    Dr. Furface One small step for man

    Ok. Also, can I just check that the Buffalo 66 soundtrack album will be acceptable? It's mainly original material by Vincent Gallo - 8 tracks - although it does include a few old ones by King Crimson, Stan Getz, Vincent's dad, and even, regrettably, Yes. (I'm sure nobody else is going to vote for it but what the hell I like it).
     
  12. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    The Yes is used magnificently in that film! Shows off what a brilliant musician Chris Squire was. Sensibly, it stops before JA starts warbling, iirr.
     
  13. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Saying it made you nauseous cos someone wants to go to a gig of a band lots of people like sounded a bit much
     
  14. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    I think Vincent Gallo did a Buffalo 66 Q and A at the Ritzy in 1998, seeing as this is a Brixton-based forum.
     
  15. Dr. Furface

    Dr. Furface One small step for man

    That's as maybe but it's not why I want to vote for it!
     
  16. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    I don't like cash-in tours by heritage bands playing 'classic' albums, I think they're bad for all sorts of reasons. Nauseous might be an exaggeration though. Irritated and a bit disappointed is probably more accurate.
     
  17. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Really annoyingly, you've made me want to listen to it now.
     
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  18. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    I think it's a brilliant chance to hear an incredible piece of music. They've got Liz Fraser involved. It's not as if they don't make decent music anymore either. "The Spoils" came out in 2016 and is one of the best songs of this entire decade (IMHO etc).

    If it's Happy Mondays doing Pills 'n' Thrills I take your point - but I don't think that's the case here.
     
  19. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Well. I don't think it's an incredible piece of music. The reverance many people seem to hold them in is part of what irritates me tbh. At least there's some level of honesty in the Happy Mondays doing pills & thrills - no-one is imagining it's going to be anything but a jolly night out throwing beer at Shaun Ryder.
     
  20. Dr. Furface

    Dr. Furface One small step for man

    I hope you mean the whole album not just the Yes tracks!
     
  21. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    I wish I could hear Shara Nelson sing Unfinished Sympathy live, just once in my life. One of my recurring fantasies. Sadly, life hasn't been good to poor Shara.
     
  22. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    no :oops:
     
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  23. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Oddly enough, when Pete Tong covered Unfinished Sympathy in his recent orchestral house hits tour, Massive Attack accused him of doing a 'nostalgia nightmare roadshow.'

    Whereas a tour playing a 20-year old album to the one-gig-a-year crowd (at £50 a ticket) is erm something else.
     
  24. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

    I've nothing else to add to our debate re validity of Mezzanine Tour as we won't change each other's minds. However, it's interesting that Tong can still bear to listen to Unfinished Sympathy after having a restraining order taken out against (a very unwell) Shara Nelson.
     
  25. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    Don't go to those gigs then. Or stand outside the venues at kicking out time explaining to people that if they think they enjoyed the show, they're actually wrong.
     
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  26. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Isn't this a music forum, where people discuss their thoughts about music?
     
  27. Favelado

    Favelado Half to the Tower, please.

  28. nogojones

    nogojones Well-Known Member

    You just reminded me that I've still got a copy of that on my hard drive.

    Whilst its not total tripe or anything it is a bit pedestrian and I only downloaded it to burn it off for a work mate and thought I may as well keep it.

    Now you've reminded me, I'm gonna dig it out and delete it to make space for more bassline :thumbs:
     
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  29. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    Could everyone add "it's only my opinion" to the end of every one of my posts to avoid being offended please
     
  30. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    Picked this up for the equivalent of 14p recently; I quite like it.
     

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