Urban really really really does hate Trance

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by Gromit, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    couldn't find this last night for some reason. ohhh dear it is a "bit" cheesy but definitely has a lot of memories
  2. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Whilst 'Get Ready For This' did make rave sets in its first incarnation, 'No Limit' was never that at all - coming out in 92 it was entirely out of step with how the rave scene was developing, and is typical of major labels picking up on an underground idea late in the day because they can sense the $$ in a marketable pop record.

    Being there back in the day, buying tunes, going out raving, and then DJing, that tune was simply not part of scenes as I recall whatsoever. My recollection of rave lineage is as kinda as follows:

    In late 89-early 91 you had the late-Nu beat into Belgian, US detroit, and UK homegrown stuff (Spectrum - Brazil, Ravesignal, Beltram - Energy Flash, Senses - Destroyer, UR - The Theory, Rhythmatic - Take Me Back, LFO - LFO, 4 Hero - Mr Kirk, etc.)

    By the mid of 91 the sped-up breakbeat/hip hop influence was core - Ragga Twins/SUAD - Spliffhead, Lamborghini, Scientist - Exorcist, Meat Beat Manifesto - Radio Babylon, HHFD - Total Confusion, Prodigy - Charly. By end of 91, you had tunes like Manix - Feel Good, Dragonfly - Visions of Rage,

    All through 92 breakbeat hardcore run tings - and even at its most commercial cross-over (Sesame's Treet, Trumpton) that tune was musically out of joint. As the backlash happened after summer of 92 when hardcore went mainstream (Mixmag saying it had all died at that point, let's listen to prog house and trance), we then went through actually the strongest and experimental point of hardcore towards late 92 as it morphed into darkcore in one way, and the jungle influences were ever creeping through too in another way. Tunes like Rufige - Terminator, Doc Scott - Here Comes The Drumz, Wax Doctor - New Direction, Noise Factory, Be Free.

    There was also the 'split' of late 93, when the piano/hands in the air hardcore turned into happy hardcore (Ramos & Supreme - Crowd Control), whilst by late 93 there was darkcore beginning to turn into d'n'b (Invisible Man - Bell Tune, Doc Scott - VIP Drumz/Riders Ghost, Studio Pressure - Jump, DJ Crystl - Warpdrive) and there was the fusion at that point still which would become jungle in its own right (M Beat - Shuffle, Gappa G - Information Centre, Conquering Lion - Dubplate Special). And this carried on through to about early 94 which at that point I think the directions of what might be considered jungle and d'n'b were more evident - though there will still plenty of fusion.

    I can remember techno from 92 onwards being the likes of either Belgian/Euro producers and more US detroit influenced stuff: CJ Bolland - Springyard, Dave Clarke - Four Seasons, UR - X101, The Mover - Nightflight, Energy - Backdraft, Luke Slater - XTront, Kenny Larkin - Aurora, etc.

    I remember trance around that time as being Jam & Spoon - Stella, Age of Love, etc.

    TL/DR: No Limit just wasn't there and also it was infuriating having to explain to people that techno isn't anything like that fucking tune :D

    (I also still have the first 2 or 3 Reactivates which were very good - Belgian techno > Euro trance, but after that what trance had become just didn't do it for me at all I'm afraid).
  3. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Because I think he's a mostly billy bullshitting self-important twat.
  4. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    It wasn't even a sell out as they were always commercial
  5. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT


    (on 10 pills)
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  6. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    I mean selling out "the scene"
  7. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    Hiya Steth! Great post!
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  8. rutabowa

    rutabowa YUPPIES OUT

    No Limits definitely got played in the year 1-3 school discos in 92, I can vouch for that.
  9. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I loved all the genre names that got invented along the way.

    'Dream House'

    'Intelligent Jungle'

    :facepalm: :D
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  10. discobastard

    discobastard ____*\(oo)/*____

    Come on Friday night Robert Armani Circus Bells tweaked up by Hardfloor

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  11. discobastard

    discobastard ____*\(oo)/*____

    'Artcore' for the intelligent d'n'b React compilations
  12. plurker

    plurker tĂș no tienes la culpa mi amor que el mundo sea feo

    I had the pleasure of working at Platipus in the late 90s.

    Nice bunch of folk. The label owner, Simon records as Art of Trance. his mobile number ends 303909 :D:cool:
  13. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    I hate to admit it but along side "house", trance is probably one of the more popular genres of electronic music, more so in Europe, Russia & Israel. If you were to attend one of those "full moon" parties in Thailand, you'd find it chocca with Israelis & Russians.

    Also, check out the big name commercial DJs/ producers from Holland... 90% of them produce/play trance. its massive over there
  14. NoXion

    NoXion Eat leaden death, demon...

    The snobs may hate it, but I love Trance.

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  15. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    I fookin hate it, hard dance in general.
  16. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom BREAD FUCKING SAUCE

    Spot on :)
  17. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    lot of folk don't know the difference between "tekno" & "techno" kids mainly.

    also, the No Limit track was just pop/chart fodder, not part of any scene really.
  18. Mattym

    Mattym Well-Known Member

    Haha-I did exactly the same thing a few months ago & again a few minutes ago before reading your comment. It was in our imaginations.
  19. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    it's on the special "eurodunce" remix
  20. bluescreen

    bluescreen Je est un autre

    Am I alone? Surely not. Groping through the morning fog to discover urban doesn't really really really hate France.

    But that gives me an idea....
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  21. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    Hating Trance was a tribal thing wasn't it? It was all that cod-spirituality bollox that we used to laugh at and the music seemed well dodgy. Cheesy washing machine stuff ?

    Obviously go back to early rave and 'Trance' meant something different. By the 2000s it was all about something.....
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  22. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    I like to think hating trance was a "taste" thing.
  23. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    It is. It's definitely an 'I'm a pretentious twat with bad taste so I'll hate Trance' thing.
  24. moody

    moody Being alive increases risk of death.

    yeah above and beyond all that the fundamental issue that trance in all it's guises is shite still stands.
  25. xes

    xes F.O.A.D

  26. xes

    xes F.O.A.D

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  27. xes

    xes F.O.A.D

  28. xes

    xes F.O.A.D

  29. xes

    xes F.O.A.D

  30. lefteri

    lefteri Well-Known Member

    There was also a crossover between trance and the early progressive house scene which Leftfield came out of - there was a series of comps called 'trance' which were actually full of prog house tunes
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