Cheers Shane ....
Depressing, with the possible exception of this ...
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Depressing, with the possible exception of this ...
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Urban Green Fair (free), June 17-18, Brockwell Park, CANCELLED????
- Thread starter William of Walworth
- Start date
aurora green
Tectonic
citydreams said:
Yeah, Good luck in the elections Shane, and all the Greens!
This is a stupid senseless decision, that does a disservice to the people of Lambeth.
When people talk about going green and sustainability, it's always difficult to relate to in a densely populated inner city situation.
Lambeth actually really needs an open, inclusive and free event such as this one, that could well help people find a Green path in a an urban sprawl.
Very dissapointing.
Another crap decision taken by those currently in power at Lambeth.
Let's all act for change on the 4th May.
Check yer PMs aurora
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
C&P council statement from http://www.hernehillforum.blogspot.com/ (bit in bold - not always, eh?)
South London Green Fair licence application
The Premises Licence application for the South London Green Fair event has been processed in the normal way, and the Council has agreed that it can take place subject to the normal conditions applied for any event of this scale.
We have been working closely with the police in processing this licence and have their full support and co-operation. The conditions require that if more than 2000 people are expected to attend an event, we always, as a matter of routine, stipulate that fencing is erected round the event site. This ensures that it can be properly managed and that the health and safety of attendees are safeguarded.
The commercial rate for an event held over two days, like the Green Fair, would normally be circa £20,000, so our hire fee of £9,800 represents a very substantial discount.
When considering the approval of a licence for a public festival, the protection and safety of the public and the environment is always a prime consideration. This application has been treated no differently.
If the event organisers are unhappy with any aspect of the application process they have the usual right of appeal.
South London Green Fair licence application
The Premises Licence application for the South London Green Fair event has been processed in the normal way, and the Council has agreed that it can take place subject to the normal conditions applied for any event of this scale.
We have been working closely with the police in processing this licence and have their full support and co-operation. The conditions require that if more than 2000 people are expected to attend an event, we always, as a matter of routine, stipulate that fencing is erected round the event site. This ensures that it can be properly managed and that the health and safety of attendees are safeguarded.
The commercial rate for an event held over two days, like the Green Fair, would normally be circa £20,000, so our hire fee of £9,800 represents a very substantial discount.
When considering the approval of a licence for a public festival, the protection and safety of the public and the environment is always a prime consideration. This application has been treated no differently.
If the event organisers are unhappy with any aspect of the application process they have the usual right of appeal.
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
reNnIe said:
No, I don't think so - it's the council's reason for refusal. Basically saying "we're happy for it to go ahead, providing there's a fence and you cough up 10 grand."
citydreams
on the road again
A bit of a derail, but do you know what the laws are on using band-stands?
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Well, my postal vote went off today. I only had the option of one green candidate sadly.
I'm so disappointed in this policy - one of the reasons I moved so close to Brockwell Park was because of the great community festivals. Last year I was pretty pissed off that there was a fenced off paying festival - more or less in my back garden - and then volunteering at the Fair 4 Life festival it was patently obvious that the fence caused nothing but expense, misery and trouble for everyone.
What on earth are those instigating this policy thinking???
Are they thinking at all?
I'm so disappointed in this policy - one of the reasons I moved so close to Brockwell Park was because of the great community festivals. Last year I was pretty pissed off that there was a fenced off paying festival - more or less in my back garden - and then volunteering at the Fair 4 Life festival it was patently obvious that the fence caused nothing but expense, misery and trouble for everyone.
What on earth are those instigating this policy thinking???
Are they thinking at all?
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Actually.. the more I think about this the more annoyed I am.
Is there any way we can campaign about this... make this a bit more of an issue - kick up a bit of a stink... I really feel like a great community space has been taken away from the community whilst large organisations who can charge for tickets get the run of the place...
Is there any way we can campaign about this... make this a bit more of an issue - kick up a bit of a stink... I really feel like a great community space has been taken away from the community whilst large organisations who can charge for tickets get the run of the place...
gaijingirl said:Actually.. the more I think about this the more annoyed I am.
Is there any way we can campaign about this... make this a bit more of an issue - kick up a bit of a stink... I really feel like a great community space has been taken away from the community whilst large organisations who can charge for tickets get the run of the place...
You could setup something on Pledgebank.com or the BBC Action network to get a group together?
A regular poster on eFestivals (Vijay) has been in contact with Shane.
Vijay tells me he was told that the Festival is far from likely to be rearranged/relocated at a later date. But I have no details, and things might (???) just possibly yet change.
There's virtually no chance that the fest will happen in Brockwell -- Lambeth's rather eccentric interpretation of new parts of the licensing laws, not AFAIK shared by other boroughs, would HAVE to be reversed for there to be any chance. I'm now assuming that if it happens at all elsewhere (even this being none too likely) it will not be on the 17/18 June. I'm already making other plans for that weekend now.
Vijay tells me he was told that the Festival is far from likely to be rearranged/relocated at a later date. But I have no details, and things might (???) just possibly yet change.
There's virtually no chance that the fest will happen in Brockwell -- Lambeth's rather eccentric interpretation of new parts of the licensing laws, not AFAIK shared by other boroughs, would HAVE to be reversed for there to be any chance. I'm now assuming that if it happens at all elsewhere (even this being none too likely) it will not be on the 17/18 June. I'm already making other plans for that weekend now.
Lambeth Council statement said:
I'm not holding out much hope of this, either
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
this is really doing my head in now, it winds me up....i've tried not to say anything, but...fucking Lambeth Council...!gaijingirl said:I really feel like a great community space has been taken away from the community whilst large organisations who can charge for tickets get the run of the place...
...run partially by the tories...with clare whelan in charge of parks...they seem determined to destroy any kind of community/alternative event - this, the pot march& festival, fair4life last year...they seem to want to destroy anything in brixton/lambeth that's a bit different or interesting...be it squats at st agnes place & rushcroft road, letting class old buildings be knocked down for flats...ruining tate gardens...(will we lose the rec?)....it reminds me of the 80s and early 90s when the tories went after anyone a bit different or seen as a 'threat'....footy fans, travellers, ravers....they fucking hated us then and i reckon they still do....i seriously think some of these people see it as their mission to clean up brixton and build a shiny new town centre no different to any other, devoid of any excitement, colour, culture or beauty...use your vote wisely on thursday people
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
beats me why they don't just say 'sod yer' to lambeth and get cozy with Southwark, with a view to using burgess park....
Giles said:
Hey don't use logic here. The council want a fence and that's that. It's not as though there's a real reason for it - it's not as though the attendees or organisers want it, and we all know it wouldn't hold back numbers if people really wanted to come - a group of folks determined to visit will easily get past a hurriedly constructed Heras fence. Short of a Glasto style construction and/or plenty of commercial security and watchtowers, it's all so bone-numbingly pointless.
The whole of the park would be a huge area btw. 2000 fit into the 'fun fair' bit around the lido and surrounds...
Brixton Hatter said:this is really doing my head in now, it winds me up....i've tried not to say anything, but...fucking Lambeth Council...!
use your vote wisely on thursday people
TOP FUCKING RANT!!!!!!!!!
aurora green
Tectonic
William of Walworth said:TOP FUCKING RANT!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, especially this bit....
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
memespring said:
I have in general: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=161127
vote, vote, vote people
