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Upstairs At The Department Store (restaurant)

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ringo, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Anyway, it seems not a day doesn't go by where I'm not gobsmacked by something (but at the same time not particularly in this increasingly bizarre neoliberal world) in that here we have a restaurant, except its not really that in any usual meaning of the word...

     
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  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The very definition of exclusivity. But at least they admit it's only there to promote themselves rather to be something the whole community can enjoy.
     
  3. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    That is true, the super rich are the clients who are going to have the budget and ambition to do more challenging and unique work, which would likely appeal to an architects firm.

    They can only work on pro bono projects due to the profits they make working for wealthier clients.
     
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  4. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    The website's not particularly honest though about it.

    It does just say... 'Upstairs is a new restaurant and bar in Brixton serving fine food and drinks on the top floor of The Department Store.
    Our rooftop location means guests must be registered with us before we can take reservations. To make a guest reservation for dining or drinks please email or call...
    '

    So, I'd look at that and think I'll ring then and book (even 'register' - whatever that entails). Then you read the T&Cs and its basically a private function space for a fucking architect to entertain/feed clients/associates in. Oh, but they'll let you in as a 'guest'. I mean, its certainly exclusive, but all the bullshittery that goes with it too. Just say 'we're part of Squires Architects and primarily a function space really but the public re able to eat here if they want to register/book'.
     
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  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    If they're happy dealing with those kind of people, that's their choice. But I won't be cheering on a firm that works hand in hand with Middle Eastern property developers on projects that involve stripping out as much affordable housing as possible.

    Fuck them. And whether they buy beer from the Brixton Brewery (now part owned by Heineken) or drop a few crumbs into worthy projects won't erase the fact that they're part of the profiteering cancer that is killing London.
     
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  6. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Well-Known Member

    That’s a temporary licensing issue or something according to their website.
     
  7. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    I can't see anything on the website about this at all, and all their T&Cs say...

    Also, does anyone know if they do charge for a joining fee/subscription? Or is this just their T&Cs covering the option?

    And the possibility of guest 'tiers' too :D
     
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  8. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Well-Known Member

    It’s at the top of the page

    Upstairs at The Department Store
     
  9. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

  10. artyfarty

    artyfarty A shed on a ditch.

    Ok I’ll come clean. I went a while ago with a friend who invited us. The view is good the space is pretty huge. The staff were charming the food was middling. You can watch people doing drug deals in the back street below. The clientele didn’t look rich just gentrified new Brixton. Beats me why it’s booked solid days in advance though.
     
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  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The place is huge. Someone was saying earlier that office space was urgently needed in Brixton but this lot are hogging loads of it for themselves.

    The downstairs/entrance area is massive and it's been left more or less empty because it makes a big design statement or something. Imagine how many offices you could fit into that empty space alone!
     
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Edgy!
     
  13. sparkybird

    sparkybird ask the bird...

    Exactly. I do this myself. I take on complex and expensive projects from people who have the money to afford them. This pays my bills. Then I can do work at low or no cost for those who can't.
    What does that make me??
     
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  14. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    Almost wish it was still derelict, then we wouldn't be arguing over such a trivial thing. It's their offices, they can do with it as they please.

    But seeing as we are discussing it, how long do license applications normally take?

    The photos make it look great
    [​IMG]
     
  15. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    Anyway, I don't think anyone has said they can't do what they like with it, because they clearly they can and are - the benefits of capital eh?! People are just as entitled to criticise it though for what it represents in a wider context of rapid social and economic change in an area and its affect.

    And its just not a restaurant really is it, not in anyone I know sense of word?! It looks very swish, but its basically a huge loft apartment with fuck all tables, some sofa's and four designer deck chairs.
     
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  16. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    Those four tables in the back of the image seat 48 people. That's more than many restaurants. Now you're gonna tell me you want your own table. Next it'll be proper cutlery.
     
  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Imagine what that space alone must be worth! And that's only a tiny part of their premises.

    They must have made a fortune for themselves with all their dealings with ultra-rich investors and dodgy offshore developers trying to avoid any kind of affordable housing obligations.
     
  18. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    There's nothing appealing for me in that setting at all. It looks really uninviting to me as somewhere to eat. Better possibly as a busy bar (which it might be if it was properly public).
     
  19. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Ah yes, but perhaps you're forgetting you can soak in a real urban Brixton vibe and watch the drug dealers from the safety of your exclusive rooftop while grazing on nibbles and supping cocktails!
     
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  20. Harbourite

    Harbourite Eggnog

    i expect the terrace gets a bit windy which must play havoc with the ping pong table. unless they've architected (?) a cunning way of preventing gusts redirecting the ball.
     
  21. Harbourite

    Harbourite Eggnog

    looks like some definite spinning going on at the fuss ball table. fuckers.
     
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  22. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    I didn't even see that :D Or particularly notice the table footy. Such as I was blinded by the shinyness. They all seem to be youthful, trendy, and er white.
     
  23. Mr Retro

    Mr Retro Beware hedgehogs

    They could stand outside the KFC doling out tenners 24 hours a day until Christmas and it wouldn’t be good enough for some posters on here. They have been pigeon holed as A Bad Thing and on Urban 75 it is easier to escape from a black hole than a pigeon hole.
     
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  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Ah, the old Urban Monothought Collective bullshit. How predictable. How dull.

    How do you feel about super rich architects colluding with greedy offshore property developers to deprive Londoners of desperately needed affordable homes? All OK in your book?
     
  25. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They hire a few locals to form a human barrier to prevent the wind reaching their table. All helps the local employment you see!
     
  26. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    To each their own. I like it, but I agree it looks more like a bar. Except the long tables, which look like Yo Sushi.
     
  27. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Several issues here.

    Not having a go at you personally but this post demonstrates how Neo Liberalism has entrenched itself as the "common sense" of society. ( As stethoscope has suggested. Also my namesake).

    The super rich don't have more ambition than anyone else. A local example is the Brixton Rec. This now has Grade two listed status. One reason is that it's good example of post war socialist architecture. After WW2 there was general feeling that ordinary people should have good architecture and facilities. The Rec is an example of that. Post war the normal career move for architecture student was to work for a local Council.

    Thatcher tore up the post war consensus.

    Now this society went backward. It's back to depending on philanthropy of the wealthy. Squires are like the Tate family who built the library. All very well but is this really the kind of society people want to live in?

    One based around class?

    I come from a cross class background. Father working class and mother upper middle class. I remember my grandmother. She could not get over the decline in deference and loss of prestige she felt her class suffered post war.( To add this was real. Ordinary people fought and defeated Hitler. No way we're they going to put up with a society run by my grandmother's lot post war) She had a real resentment. Understandable in a way when one loses all that.

    What I've seen in my adult life is gradual change over 30 years to point where individuals like Squires are seen as a good thing. My grandmother would have approved. A change for the better. At last a return to a society based on philanthropy by those who have good taste.

    In hard headed reality , whilst as individual social actors, I have nothing against Squires personally the Department building imo isn't socially progressive.
     
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  28. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Word of advice Spam is right wing troll on Brixton forum. Spam is wind up merchant. Check Spams profile.
     
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  29. existentialist

    existentialist It could always be worse.

    TBH, if I were a Machiavellian evil bastard who'd been pissed off by the place, that's exactly the kind of tweet I'd have posted :D
     
  30. existentialist

    existentialist It could always be worse.

    Ah, but you might be an incipient customer... ;)
     
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