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ringo

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Work colleague tells me something's going on in Stockwell at the moment.
He knows of four gun/knife related incidents over the weekend, his mates think it's gang related.

On a similar note a man was stabbed to death on one of the estates opposite the Sun & Doves in September, that didn't make the news or South London Press either that I've seen.

It's pretty sad that this type of serious violence is so widespead in our community that it doesn't even warrant reporting any more.
 
ringo said:
Work colleague tells me something's going on in Stockwell at the moment.
He knows of four gun/knife related incidents over the weekend, his mates think it's gang related.

On a similar note a man was stabbed to death on one of the estates opposite the Sun & Doves in September, that didn't make the news or South London Press either that I've seen.

It's pretty sad that this type of serious violence is so widespead in our community that it doesn't even warrant reporting any more.



Well there wouldn't be much room left in the SLP for other news if they reported every stabbing/shooting
 
A man was shot dead about twenty yards beyond my back garden when I lived in Brixton. It didn't make the papers. I found this a bit disturbing: the news is a record of things that matter and what goes unreported does not, by inference, matter much.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
A man was shot dead about twenty yards beyond my back garden when I lived in Brixton. It didn't make the papers. I found this a bit disturbing: the news is a record of things that matter and what goes unreported does not, by inference, matter much.
That's one of the reasons I've started compiling a record of the often unreported shit that goes down. I sometimes send my MP the link.

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/shooting-boards.html
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
Well there wouldn't be much room left in the SLP for other news if they reported every stabbing/shooting

there isn't anyway. the front page is always "granny stabbed in bed" or "teenager shot" or something.

depressing. must be bad working there.
 
tommers said:
there isn't anyway. the front page is always "granny stabbed in bed" or "teenager shot" or something.

depressing. must be bad working there.


Doubt it, you probably just grow immune to it and are working on auto pilot

I know I do in this job :(
 
Hello all, the SLP's crime reporter here...

Just thought my input would be of interest here. I've avoided posting on here in a "professional" capacity as yet but I just can't resist today.

What you're talking about on this thread has become one of the great frustrations of my job - apart from reporting on tragic needless murder after murder, of course. This is when people complain because incidents in their area aren't in the paper - but haven't done anything about it themselves.

How do you think we find out about any crime? The police usually tell us (me) but sometimes they don't - for whatever reason. Or someone rings in.

If the police choose not to, or just don't get round to, telling us we have to rely on our contacts or other agencies who know we should be told (but sometimes forget) or members of the public phoning up to tell us. Often they just want to ask what is happening down the end of their road (when that happens I call the cops and tell them). Sometimes it is the victim or a relative who rings in to tell us because they want their story aired.

There isn't really any other way - we simply don't have the staff to drive round all day and find police cordons. The SLP has just seven reporters to cover the whole of South London but we have a tight budget, a paper to fill and other important stuff to be doing (like phoning round and answering calls when someone does ring in).

It has become a worrying trend for us that increasingly, instead of picking up the phone and calling their local paper, more and more people are using boards like this (U75 being one of the best) to talk about local issues. So every day I have a quick scan to see if anyone reports anything - and there have been a couple of shootings I haven't known about on here.

What I'm trying to say is a paper needs its readers to get its information and find the stories that matter, without that it will die. And yes, I know the SLP would get more of that if it was better but with the resources we have we do the best we can. People just aren't buying local papers the way they used to anywhere and we face far more competition from free papers delivered to the door or handed out on the Tube.

But, compare the SLP with other local papers (the whole industry is in terminal decline) and I reckon it is quite good. Take the nearest decent local paper, the Croydon Advertiser, for example. Our website is crap though and is never updated.

Me, I'm big on local newspapers and believe everyone should read, get involved in and take pride in their local paper - this is the piece of the media that is dedicated to your area and can help you stop whatever planning application, crime wave or new road that is affecting your life. But then I do work in local papers so it isn't surprising.

I'd appreciate your thoughts and hopefully next time you see a police cordon on your road you'll ring me.

(And yes, the job is very depressing.)
 
Leon said:
I'd appreciate your thoughts and hopefully next time you see a police cordon on your road you'll ring me.
Why not just make a point of reading these boards every day rather than relying on people to start making calls?

You'll find there's a wealth of local information (interesting/bad/good) being posted here day in, day out.

Here's one to get you started. This 'official' anti-gun graffiti has been sprayed outside the Barrier Block:

shooting-board-17.jpg


shooting-board-18.jpg
 
Thanks for replying.

I do read the boards both from a personal and professional interest, although I make sure the professional interest is restricted to just incidents rather than nosing into people's lives.

Thanks for the tip - think we've done that one already though but I'll check tomorrow!

My email is [email protected] if anyone wants to contact me directly and my number is 020 8710 6440.

Also, if crime in Lambeth is something you're interested in why not turn up to the borough's Community Police Consultative Group meetings? (Actually, don't answer that - I can think of many reasons why not).

Most of the time they're boring but they can be very informative, interesting and firey. Also, you can meet me - bonus.

The special meeting held to discuss the Rasta temple for example was incredible. It also gives you access the opportunity to question the borough's police chiefs.
 
Here's one for you Leon - there was a stabbing outside the entrance to Tulse Hill station / Railway pub on Saturday night at about 10pm. A white guy in his mid-20s I think. My mate and I wandered onto the scene about 2 mins after it happened, there was pandemonium, people running around on mobiles, someone doing mouth to mouth. A trail of blood leading to the alley on the right. Police and ambulances got there quick. They shut the pub down straight away, we just got ourselves out of the way.

I can't find any news about it anywhere but if anyone hears whether the guy was ok or not, I'd like to know, as we were pretty shaken up by it all.
 
Cheers mate,

Checking up on that now. I've been told the victim was the landlord of the Railway, although that is yet to be confirmed.
 
I really hope it isn't. That poor landlord may have his flaws, but he's gebnuinely committed to the community and he doesn't deserve even more violence dished out to him. Fingers crossed.
 
I agree, he's a good bloke.

Just spoken to the cops - he's recovered enough to speak to them. It was touch and go at one point though.
 
Good grief. I went past there at about 9 and all was very peaceful and quiet. Poor bugger.
 
Leon said:
I agree, he's a good bloke.

Just spoken to the cops - he's recovered enough to speak to them. It was touch and go at one point though.

Was speaking to the Portuguese cafe owner today near to Tulse Hill station
and he says that the stabbing victim had died, can anyone confirm this..

The police still have the allyway cordoned off..
 
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