Universal credit is stressing me out

Discussion in 'benefits and housing' started by passenger, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    I have been taken off ESA and was informed I had to go on to this, seems like a hell of a lot
    of red tape and things ready to trip you up and SANCTION you to be damed in hell for iternity
    if you make one tiny mistake I am very limited to what I can do due to scitica and pains in other leg
    that i broke 4 years ago..... my question is are there others on this fron urban and can they give me any advice I am ment to look for 7 hours per day for work when tried before I really did strugle 3/4 jobs a week to apply for :( I really need some help on this other wise i worry about my mental health going down hill big time.
  2. AnnO'Neemus

    AnnO'Neemus Is so vanilla

    So they're basically asking you to treat job hunting like a full time job. Have you submitted 'fit notes' in relation to your medical issues, or are you okay with actively looking for work? If you've submitted fit notes I think you should be getting a work capability assessment to assess whether or not you should be required to look for work or not.
  3. AnnO'Neemus

    AnnO'Neemus Is so vanilla

    Btw, re mental health and sanctions and benefits stuff generally, try contacting your local branch of Mind as they have advice workers who help people with benefits claims, appeals, tribunals, making sure you're getting everything you're entitled to.

    Don't expect the DWP to be totally honest and upfront about benefits entitlements, they're not legally required to proactively inform you and tell you what to claim, only confirm whether or not you're entitled to what you do claim for.

    Always, always seek independent advice from a CAB, law centre or Mind advice worker or someone like that.
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  4. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    I missed an ESA interview thinking my Docter had faxed a letter over but it
    did not get there in time so 3 weeks later I recive a letter saying I am off ESA
    because of this ,you can apeal but will not getting any money for up to 5 months
    I did have a very good case but now fell i`m going down hill fast.
  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Oh passenger :(


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  6. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Hi passenger, I’m going to double check my UC stuff at work for you tomorrow as I think you should have been offered a particular payment if you are in the process of appeal and moved over to UC.

    Do you have a citizens advice or community law centre near to you?
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  7. Jackobi

    Jackobi swallows anything

    If you missed the ESA interview (work capability assessment) and your ESA was stopped for that reason, you can submit a request for a mandatory reconsideration, and if that is refused, you can then submit an appeal. You will need to show good cause for missing the interview.

    The mandatory reconsideration should be submitted within one month of the date of the decision letter but can be submitted within 13 months.

    Until the appeal is accepted by the DWP, you would have to claim (either jobseekers allowance or) universal credit as a job seeker which is what you are doing now. If you submit a mandatory reconsideration and appeal, you will be in the same position as you are now but with the chance that your ESA will be reinstated without having to submit a new claim.

    It is not accurate to state that you would be getting no money for up to 5 months if you appeal, you will not receive any ESA, there is a big difference.

    If you missed an interview at the Jobcentre as part of your conditionality and your ESA was stopped, the same process applies.

    As others have suggested, you should contact an advice centre for assistance.
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  8. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    yes i do purenarcotic
  9. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    thanks for all the advice just not felling great will read and take in
  10. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Of course you aren’t, it’s shit. Will report back tomorrow for you.
  11. AnnO'Neemus

    AnnO'Neemus Is so vanilla

    Oh, bloody hell, nightmare. So sorry to hear this. Please seek advice from Mind, CAB, law centre or other advice agency asap. And also, the staff running a local food bank might be able to point you in the direction of other local support groups/organisations that might be able to help with appeals and stuff, because they will have helped so many other people in your situation before and will have experience in referring people to local advice agencies.
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  12. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    I will contact CAB and mind tomorow, do my job search so they lay off me
    fell better today I wonder how people on in life with out the help we get on here
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  13. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Hi passenger, sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

    You never should have been told to claim UC in the first place - if you had gone for a mandatory reconsideration and then an appeal for the ESA you could have claimed something known as 'Regulation 30' where you could have continued to receive ESA until your appeal was looked at. Law centres are aware that many people are being misadvised by jobcentres to move onto UC to job seek. This doesn't help you right now but I'm posting this for anybody else reading who may be in a similar position.

    You need to put a change of circumstances claim in ASAP as you are sick and shouldn't be being made to look for work. You can do this through the online portal if you have an account or via the phone if you don't have one. You may be able to do it via your work coach when you go into the job centre next too. I would go to the dr to get a sick note first and I would be looking to request to move into the 'claimants subject to no work related requirements' group - this is the new name for those who were in the support group for ESA. CAB should be able to help you do this if you're struggling.
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  14. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    thanks for the advice purenarcotic must admit i really am felling unwell due to this
    i did call my workcouch he said do what i can till we meet again, i just can`t belive
    how nasty they are so i could have stayed on esa, just need the energy to carry on
  15. AnnO'Neemus

    AnnO'Neemus Is so vanilla

    I don't understand how this works. I remember a few years ago I was told something similar. But I said I can't claim JSA or whatever it was at the time, because that requires me to sign and say that I'm fit for work and looking for work, and I'm not, so you're effectively asking me to make a fraudulent claim and lie, and I can't do that. I think a decision was relatively swiftly overturned. But that was aaages ago before mandatory considerations and stuff.

    But it still makes me wonder how and why they would tell people to, effectively, make a fraudulent claim for JSA or whatever.
  16. AnnO'Neemus

    AnnO'Neemus Is so vanilla

    This is why it's always best to check with CAB or law centre or Mind welfare rights adviser or someone like that, someone who's independent.

    The staff at the DWP might be new, they might not be very well trained, they might be stressed out and under a lot of pressure and forget some random regulations that apply to a small number of people in rare situations... or then again they might be sadistic bastards who like to trip people up and sanction people and make them suffer.

    You don't know whether they're doing their best to help you, or struggling under stress, or whatnot, so it's always best to get help and advice from someone who's more likely to be on your side and advocate for you.

    I hope you get some of the help you need.
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  17. Jackobi

    Jackobi swallows anything

    Which ESA group were you in, support group or wrag?
  18. passenger

    passenger up and down...

    Just ESA i was in a work group thenn drive you back to jsa
    now universal credit jsa

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