United 93 (film about September 11th)

[editor]

Go and get yer hair cut . . . bloody peaceniks.

Are you actually talking to anyone here, or are you just posting up a collection of random posts?

 

[Yossarian]

Wasn't the guy that actually said "let's roll" a homosexual man, and wasn't this fact rather glossed over by the media?

I don't think anyone even actually said "Let's roll" - somebody said "roll it", talking about a drinks trolley they were trying to use to knock a door down.

 

[London_Calling]

Hey ho. Your loss mate. Your conculsion seems to have been well and truly jumped to.

AFAIK, It was British made, not Hollywood.

"AFAIK" - not a lot

Production Companies

* Sidney Kimmel Entertainment
* Studio Canal
* Universal Pictures
* Working Title Films


- oh good, another collaboration between the two countries wot most need to feel their actions in the world are justified.

 

[editor]

"AFAIK" - not a lot

It was mostly filmed at Pinewood Studios.
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1762247,00.html

 

[editor]

- oh good, another collaboration between the two countries wot most need to feel their actions in the world are justified.

And the British director, Paul Greengrass, previous credits include:

Bloody Sunday
The Murder of Stephen Lawrence
The Fix

He hardly strikes me as the sort who would let his films be turned into propaganda tools.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339030/

 

[London_Calling]

You don't think Pie 1 was talking about the financial backers when s/he wrote "British made" ?

I'm sure you don't, if it suits.

 

[Leica]

StudioCanal is French.

 

[Reno]

"AFAIK" - not a lot

Production Companies

* Sidney Kimmel Entertainment
* Studio Canal
* Universal Pictures
* Working Title Films


- oh good, another collaboration between the two countries wot most need to feel their actions in the world are justified.

I think the point was that it isn't a Hollywood film, which seemed to be an general assumption on here. It's a low budget independent film which was co-financed by a number of countries and studios and shot in the UK by a British director.

Also what is this idiotic assumption that just because a country is involved, the creative people behind a project are going represent the interests of their respective governments ? You sure stick by your dumb generalizations and national stereotypes.

 

[London_Calling]

You sure stick by your dumb generalizations and national stereotypes.

It's me who uses German accents to imply pacifism in the face of terrorists - you don't think you've got the wrong end of the stick ?

StudioCanal is French.

Today, StudioCanal is a division of Vivendi Universal, - it's a sub of a huge international conglomerate.

 

[Reno]

It's me who uses German accents to imply pacifism in the face of terrorists - you don't think you've got the wrong end of the stick ?

Cutting a quote in half and responding to it out of context makes a dialogue a bit pointless really.

 

[London_Calling]

 

[editor]

Today, StudioCanal is a division of Vivendi Universal, - it's a sub of a huge international conglomerate.

Err, Vivendi Universal is a FRENCH based company.

From the very same site:

Vivendi Universal (VU) is a French conglomerate active in media and communications with activities in music, television and film, publishing, telecommunications and the Internet.

 

[beeboo]

Today, StudioCanal is a division of Vivendi Universal, - it's a sub of a huge international conglomerate.

But you'd be hard pressed to name any studio that isn't part of a huge international conglomerate. It's clutching at straws to suggest that has got anything to do with politics of the film.

 

[London_Calling]

But you'd be hard pressed to name any studio that isn't part of a huge international conglomerate. It's clutching at straws to suggest that has got anything to do with politics of the film.

Is my point. Its as "French" as I am, which is not a lot.

Before this strand of the thread gets completely lost, the point is the film is not - as previously claimed - "British made" - it was partly financed by Working Title (a British-based company), and partly filmed at Pinewood.

If folks want to think that outweighs the input of Universal and the other US finainciers, then thats fine and dandy by me.

 

[Leica]

I've not seen the film. You may have a point about questioning the use of a stereotypical German accent if that's what it is (given that Germany opposed the attack on Iraq) but still the association and your argument both seem a bit implausible.

 

[Ranu]

The flight attendents ..... were playing themselves in quite a few cases as well.

You sure about that?

 

[editor]

You sure about that?

Yep:

In choosing the cast, the filmmakers sought to bring together an ensemble comprised of gifted actors (and, in some cases, real-life flight crew members, controllers and other personnel) who came armed with the talents and skills necessary to create vivid and real snapshots of the actual men and women onboard and involved with United Airlines Flight 93.
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/united_93.htm

 

[editor]

Before this strand of the thread gets completely lost, the point is the film is not - as previously claimed - "British made" - it was partly financed by Working Title (a British-based company), and partly filmed at Pinewood.

Actually, it was predominantly filmed in Britain

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1181589,00.html

 

[Ranu]

Yep:

There's a difference between flight attendents and the flight attendents.

 

[editor]

There's a difference between flight attendents and the flight attendents.

I didn't think anyone thought that the actual flight attendants would be playing themselves on account of the fact that they all died!

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You are not taking account differing earning expectations for different types of films.

United 93 was not made to be a blockbuster and is not a Hollywood film, much as you and pk would like to insist. It is an independent film (much of the budget came from the UK and France) starring unknown actors and was produced on a relatively small budget of $15, so it has made back twice its money in the US alone and hasn't tanked at all. Anyway, who apart from the bean counters gives a shit whether something is "good Hollywood product" ? I'm more interested in good films.

I'm talking about the fact that NA isn't ready for these kinds of movies. I'll concede that it is probably well made, and a very faithful rendition of what happened, but it's only five years ago, and the memories are still stark.

Most people don't want to pay ten bucks to relive some of the most harrowing hours of their lives.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

AFAIK, It was British made, not Hollywood. No stars - not one. The flight attendents & ground control staff were playing themselves in quite a few cases as well.

No matter who made it, they likely made it in order to make money. Otherwise, they could show it for free, or cut ticket prices so that they only made their money back.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Actually, it was predominantly filmed in Britain

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1181589,00.html

X Men 3 was mostly filmed in Vancouver. Does that make it a Canadian movie?

 

[editor]

X Men 3 was mostly filmed in Vancouver. Does that make it a Canadian movie?

It means it was predominantly filmed in Canada.

 

[Pie 1]

I'm talking about the fact that NA isn't ready for these kinds of movies. I'll concede that it is probably well made, and a very faithful rendition of what happened, but it's only five years ago, and the memories are still stark.

Most people don't want to pay ten bucks to relive some of the most harrowing hours of their lives.

You mean that NA isn't ready to see anything other than what it wants to see.
I bet you 10 bucks that World Trade Centre makes a fucking fortune.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You mean that NA isn't ready to see anything other than what it wants to see.
I bet you 10 bucks that World Trade Centre makes a fucking fortune.

Say it however you like, and World Trade Center won't make much money in North America.

 

[editor]

Say it however you like, and World Trade Center won't make much money in North America.

United 93 has already grossed $30,585,000
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/weekend/

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

United 93 has already grossed $30,585,000
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/weekend/

Which is nothing.

Also, it's already been pulled from theatres here, due to slow attendance.

 

[editor]

Which is nothing..

It was the 12th biggest grossing film in the US last weekend and holds the 8th Cumulative Gross slot.

 

[RaverDrew]

Which is nothing.

Also, it's already been pulled from theatres here, due to slow attendance.

What do you mean it's nothing ?

It's already making a massive profit unlike all them big budget Hollywood turkeys we're inflicted with every year.

waterworld anyone ?