Undercover policing enquiry

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by teqniq, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    IPCC confirm investigation into document shredding

    Investigation into document destruction at Metropolitan Police Service - IPCC
    Feb 8, 2017

     
    Pickman's model likes this.
  2. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

  3. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    17 months before it's referred to the IPCC but only 9 months for the IPCC to decide an investigation is warranted. Things are really speeding up.
     
  4. Ergo Proxy

    Ergo Proxy Well-Known Member

    Might be of interest to some although as a pinch of salt his book sales might need propping up.

     
  5. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    He's the one who (briefly) worked with Mark Kennedy before Kennedy went onto NPOIU.
     
  6. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    There's a pretty important hearing going on today, which unsurprisingly is not being reported by the BBC



    if interested follow @tombfowler for updates

    a few salient points





     
  7. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    ^ NSNPCP = Non-state non-police core participants, that is, those taking part in the inquiry - with a specific status given to them by Lord Pitchford - who were people targeted by the spycops, rather than spycops themselves, their managers, or the civil servants or others who may have been involved.
     
  8. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Interestingly it looks as if Pitchford is running out of patience with the OB too

     
    Pickman's model likes this.
  9. Ergo Proxy

    Ergo Proxy Well-Known Member

    Not sure if this goes here but......

    Whistleblower uncovers London police hacking of journalists and protestors - World Socialist Web Site
     
  10. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Before I forget, here's the bit from his book where he refers to Kennedy:
     

    Attached Files:

    Pickman's model likes this.
  11. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Spycops inquiry delayed until late 2019

     
  12. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    Fuck's sake these people do like kicking stuff into the long grass don't they?
     
    teqniq likes this.
  13. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Indeed they do. I was hoping for more from Pitchford, it appears my hopes were misplaced.
     
  14. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

  15. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

  16. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    BTW there's more to come on Coles - it's looking like he was better than a superficial examination might suggest. Subsequent to his SDS undercover deployment he worked on ACPO TAM, the chief constable-level strategic body driving counter-terrorism, counter-extremism and anti-public disorder policing. He was also connected with the post-SDS national units NPIOU, NETCU and NDET, and their successor organisation NDEU.

    Worth noting
    that his job as Deputy PCC in Cambridgeshire is entirely in the gift of the PCC (i.e. not subject to civil service recruitment regulations etc). The PCC, Jason Ablewhite, himself came from the business community, before relocating to Cambridgeshire, where he became the Chief Executive of Huntingdonshire District Council. Is it also worth noting that the Cambridgeshire business community includes li'l mom'n'pop enterprises like Huntingdon Life Sciences..?
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2017
    nogojones and ddraig like this.
  17. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    ddraig likes this.
  18. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Just as well I didn't title the thread 'The Pitchford enquiry'. Retired due to ill health apparently. New chair John Mitting.



    not much on Wiki

    Sir John Mitting to take over undercover police inquiry

    hmm from the Graun piece, does not bode well

     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2017
    Pickman's model likes this.
  19. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Pitchford has been ill some time and Mitting was named as his replacement a while back - probably more interesting from the past few days is the Inquiry team admitting that more than 1,000 groups were spied upon by the SDS and NPOIU :eek:
     
  20. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    fuck me, they were busy
     
    LynnDoyleCooper and Badgers like this.
  21. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    Well, you know, they're not called busies for nothing..

    (tbf I don't know how it's spelled and since it's slang that probably doesn't matter)
     
    Pickman's model likes this.
  22. taffboy gwyrdd

    taffboy gwyrdd Embrace the confusion!

    Dunno if this has been posted. I'd rather avoid a debate about the hosting party, it's the content that matters in this case.
     
  23. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    Fucking hell:eek:. What other subversive groups were they spying on - the Quakers?
    Speechless
     
    Pickman's model and likesfish like this.
  24. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    ffs how the fuck could they justify this even if you took every tiny group most Batshit members bullshit as complete truth you couldn't justify this .
     
  25. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Up against the wall motherfucker.

    1,000 groups over how many years though, 40? Suspect the number also includes groups looked into, rather than those that they just had an active spy in for a length of time.

    Can't say I'm surprised, it's probably every extra-parliamentary political/campaign group that's done anything.

    I can't find the quote now, but isn't there one from someone in the security services saying how they had someone in every group the size of a football/cricket team, and if their man wasn't the captain then he was the referee and he could send anyone off at any time. :eek:
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2017
  26. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    it was basically any extra-parliamentary political group on their radar - and any politicians who associated with them.
     
  27. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

  28. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Even in 2003 you'd get more jsa than that, while also getting hb, ctb and retaining your self-respect
     
    Badgers likes this.
  29. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Well he was doing doorman work so I dunno if the benefits angle applies (though you right about the amount and the self-respect). It just seems unlikely that you'd just be out on a run and end up getting recruited by the cops like that? (Tbf I have cunningly avoided this by never going out on a run).

    Also it does sound like they treated him like shit - not even paying him what they said they would and waving cash in his face? And the idea that his exit strategy would be to infiltrate Muslim groups or Loyalists where the risk of violent retribution is even higher is terrifying.
     
    likesfish likes this.
  30. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    I know lots of people approached by the cops to become informers, but they were all previously involved in things esp round the time of the maydays back in '01-'04. Outside the six counties never heard of people being asked so nicely if they'd do this, but the being treated like shit is common to pretty much all informant narratives I've read
     
    Badgers likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice