unbelievable parking fine!

[goldengraham]

Try the Lambeth Labour website. There's a whole section of the board devoted to parking enforcement malpractice, although it doesn't appear to have been updated recently.

I went on there and kicked up a fuss when my mother in law's car was towed from outside our house at 8.45am one morning. Steve Reed, who looks at the boards on there from time to time, saw the post and offered to back up my appeal (which was subsequently successful).

 

[goldengraham]

It's at:

www.lambethlabour.com/parking/parkingnoticeboard.html

 

[RushcroftRoader]

It's at:

www.lambethlabour.com/parking/parkingnoticeboard.html

Thanks for the advice.
I am definitely going to appeal. Honestly, If my wheel was on the pavement, it was no more than an inch. AND I am going to put in an FOI on how much Lambeth spends on sending out propaganda about parking services. I actually saw a bus stop advert for the lamentable Lambeth Life "magazine" the other day.

 

[RushcroftRoader]

£120?

that seems nuts...!

tell me about it. ANd the offence was on December 2. Only just got the letter.

 

[Stobart Stopper]

I don't have much sympathy for people who park on the pavement. Why? Because it breaks the pavement, that's why. .

Not if the first bit of the pavement is specially built to withstand the weight of cars. Almost all of the roads around here have this, it's different sort of brick for the part near the kerb, about 18 inches to 2 feet wide.

 

[phildwyer]

Not if the first bit of the pavement is specially built to withstand the weight of cars. Almost all of the roads around here have this, it's different sort of brick for the part near the kerb, about 18 inches to 2 feet wide.

Not in Brixton. Many of Brixton's Victorian pavements have been destroyed by selfish, uncaring drivers. Hefty fines are the only viable deterrant.

 

[RushcroftRoader]

Not in Brixton. Many of Brixton's Victorian pavements have been destroyed by selfish, uncaring drivers. Hefty fines are the only viable deterrant.

ha ha ha ha ha phil. If only a single person took you seriously! hahahahahhahaha

 

[pooka]

Many of Brixton's Victorian pavements

Not seen them...whereabouts are they?

 

[isvicthere?]

I am spitting feathers.
I have just got a letter from Lambeth Council detailing a £120 fine for parking outside my flat "with one or more wheels on any part of an urban road other than a carriageway (footway parking) (one wheel on footway).
If I had a wheel on the pavement (and there are dropped kerbs on Rushcroft Road), and I am not admitting that I did, it must have been on by about no more than 1 inch.
I can not believe the pettiness of the Council. Has anyone appealed against one of these ludicrous charges or been similarily victimised??

I read somewhere that over 50% of people who dispute parking tickets in Lambeth win, the highest proportion in the country. So go for it.

 

[phildwyer]

ha ha ha ha ha phil. If only a single person took you seriously! hahahahahhahaha

Fine, go ahead and park on Brixton's pavements. Smash public property to bits with your SUV. After all in a few years there won't be any pesky plebs left in the area and you can build your own fucking personal garage in front of your mansion eh what?

 

[lang rabbie]

Parking on the pavement near where I live on Brixton Hill seems to be tolerated by the council and I just don't understand why. I'm not talking about an inch or so onto the pavement either, I'm talking about the whole car on the pavement. The Editor captured exactly what I'm talking about in his then and now pictures of 222 Brixton Hill http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/222brixtonhill.html

Anyone have any idea why the council allow this to happen?

Because the pavements beyond that line of cast iron lamp standards - now in a sadly knackered looking state - are not part of the public highway. They are actually frontages belonging to the individual shops. Indeed one or two of those plots still have some of Brixton's remaining Victorian pavements - look out for the York stone slabs.

Whether or not the owners actually have a right of way over the public pavement to park on their own land is a legal minefield.

 

[RushcroftRoader]

Fine, go ahead and park on Brixton's pavements. Smash public property to bits with your SUV. After all in a few years there won't be any pesky plebs left in the area and you can build your own fucking personal garage in front of your mansion eh what?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA. HEEEHEEHEEHEEE......HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH


ah phil, you crack me up. Let me know if you are ever in my street, and I will try and park on your foot!
hahahahhahahahahahahahha

 

[brix]

Because the pavements beyond that line of cast iron lamp standards - now in a sadly knackered looking state - are not part of the public highway. They are actually frontages belonging to the individual shops. Indeed one or two of those plots still have some of Brixton's remaining Victorian pavements - look out for the York stone slabs.

Whether or not the owners actually have a right of way over the public pavement to park on their own land is a legal minefield.

Thank you for explaining that - I always wondered why/how they were allowed to get away with it. It's still annoying though

 

[pogofish]

I read somewhere that over 50% of people who dispute parking tickets in Lambeth win, the highest proportion in the country. So go for it.

Last time I looked, the highest level of upholding was over 80% & I'm pretty certain that was Westminster. Lambeth however was hot on its heels.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

sell your car and get a bicycle

lambeth parking are cunts (i've been done on rushcroft for 'parking on the pavement' ) but if you break the rules you gotta fess up. i've got no sympathy for moaning car drivers tbh

 

[RushcroftRoader]

I am still not sure I did anything wrong.
PS I do have a bike and use it a fair bit.

 

[newbie]

Because the pavements beyond that line of cast iron lamp standards - now in a sadly knackered looking state - are not part of the public highway. They are actually frontages belonging to the individual shops. Indeed one or two of those plots still have some of Brixton's remaining Victorian pavements - look out for the York stone slabs.

Whether or not the owners actually have a right of way over the public pavement to park on their own land is a legal minefield.

they very jealously guard their right. Any traffic warden who tries it on is greeted with all the shopkeepers waving laminated letters and backing each other up. I was told their the right of way is from Blenheim Gardens only but that may just be their story.

 

[phildwyer]

I am still not sure I did anything wrong.

You did: you parked on the pavement. Obviously people can't be allowed to park on the pavement, because if they do the pavement will break and the tax-payers who have paid for it won't be able to use it. So the council imposes fines on people who park on the pavement. Fair enough, right? Or is there a reason why you should be above the law?

 

[RushcroftRoader]

You did: you parked on the pavement. Obviously people can't be allowed to park on the pavement, because if they do the pavement will break and the tax-payers who have paid for it won't be able to use it. So the council imposes fines on people who park on the pavement. Fair enough, right? Or is there a reason why you should be above the law?

But I didn't park on the pavement. I parked on the road. The council claim one wheel was on the pavement. I am not sure they were right. If the warden was technically right, it was a matter of an inch. You know Phil, about the same size as your todger!

 

[trabuquera]

Count yerself lucky RR.

This weekend I was the lucky recipient of a bailiffs' enforcement notice, threatening me with the presence of burly men who'd come and take my worldly goods away if I didn't pay up £165 within four working days.

The alleged cause: driving in a bus lane in Acre Lane ... on 10 December 2005

Lambeth Parking claim to have sent me 4 penalty notices and reminders between Dec 05 and March 06 .... NONE OF WHICH EVER ARRIVED AT MY ADDRESS.

I am entirely happy to pay any fine for any offence I might actually have committed ... but to be retrospectively charged the full whack for offence + evasion (and be threatened with bailiffs) over two years later seems a bit off surely?

On calling Lambeth Parking I was told the ONLY way to deal with this was to write to their PO Box address ... when I expressed mild scepticism that anything going to Lambeth Parking PO Boxes would be dealt with within 4 working days (especially as it's taken them over 2 years to catch up with my justice-dodging self) I was told "oh no, they'll action it immediately."

WTF????

 

[Brixton Hatter]

But I didn't park on the pavement. I parked on the road. The council claim one wheel was on the pavement.

that is EXACTLY what happened to me - one wheel on the pavement. tyre about an inch on to the pavement. it's easy to do when parking i guess, the wardens must go round looking for it. grrr.

 

[phildwyer]

the wardens must go round looking for it. grrr.

Of course they do. Why wouldn't they--that is their job. In Los Angeles they wait until 2 minutes before 6pm (when you don't have to pay for parking meters any more) and then whizz around on bikes, ticketing everyone whose meters have run out--and this is a $100 fine. So you Brits should count yourself lucky.

 

[RushcroftRoader]

interesting footnote to this: I spoke to a traffic warden on Saturday about when a car gets a ticket for parking on the pavement. He said that wardens have been advised to ticket a car for having "more than half a tyre" on the pavement, thus confirming that wardens do have the power of discretion!

 

[pogofish]

The alleged cause: driving in a bus lane in Acre Lane ... on 10 December 2005

I'd suggest you ask Lambeth to send you details of the Tribunal procedure - There are guidelines on timescales & I'd hazzard a guess that unless they can prove they have been hot on your heels for this whole period, the tribunal is very likely to throw this one out completely.

Always keep your dealings with this lot on paper & use recorded delivery etc. The main reason is that any challenge from you also freezes the "discount" period from the time they get your letter till the time you get their written response - Which can sometimes run into periods of weeks in length.

 

[pogofish]

So you Brits should count yourself lucky.

Some UK authorities are up on this one as well & have brought-in regs that double any peanalty issued in the last few minutes of the operation period. Particularly on bus lanes.