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UK photographers: the law and your rights: discussion

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by editor, Feb 10, 2007.

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More photography laws?

  1. Yes

    1.5%
  2. No

    88.9%
  3. Restrict it to professionals

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Create a license/register for it

    2.2%
  5. Am busy stalking someone click......click

    7.4%
  1. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    In my line of work permission slips for photos are good practice because of in loco parentis. I don't think it's illegal to take photos that happen to have kids in them.
     
  2. toggle

    toggle wobbly


    oh definately the bloke was being an arse in your original situation, if he had a leg to stand on, he would have been explaining the terms of the official secrets act, not weebling and trying to wind you up. the area in which you were photographing does contain some buildings that cannot be photographed (in the same wat firky's bloody great ship does not exist), but the behavior of the guard was laughable and shows that the building you where photographing was not one that you can't legally photograph

    However, a shopping center, as an example, can be defined as a private space, that you cannot take your own pix in, but a public space, in that CCTV usage and operators have to be appropriately registered.
     
  3. Paul Russell

    Paul Russell Psychogeographer

    There is so much paranoia about taking pictures of children that a sort of urban myth seems to be building up.

    For example, a couple of kids saw me with a big camera recently:

    Kid 1: "Woah. Can you take my picture, I'm gonna dive off this breakwater".

    Me: "No".

    Kid 2 to Kid 1: "Don't be stupid, that would be illegal".

    That sort of thing.
     
  4. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Little fuckers are a nuisance. They should be banned from public places to faciliate photography.
     
  5. Errol's son

    Errol's son Well-Known Member

    I woud expect to get stopped taking photos of big companies' HQs, airports, miltary bases, MI6, Downing St, parts of Westminster, the stock exchange etc.

    In most countries you get in loads of crap for taking pictures of anyone or anything official.

    In this day and age, you can't really expect the UK to be much different whether ou take a photo from a public road or from some private land.
     
  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Photographing schoolchildren and displaying identifiable photos on the web is quite a separate issue, especially if the photos are being taken on private property (i.e. a school). You need permission to do that.

    But if the school was holding an event in a public place - say a street parade - then people would be free to photograph it (subject to other related laws, of course).
     
  7. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    What? You think a "big corporate" should own the *air* around them and thus have the power to stop passers by taking pictures from the street?!!
     
  8. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I should add that I was carrying around my cheapo looking Ricoh GR digital compact and not some pro camera set up at the time.
     
  9. Errol's son

    Errol's son Well-Known Member

    No, I would be pissed off if I took a photo of GlaxoSmithKline from the A4/M4 whilst driving past on the flyover and got told off. But from their land, I can understand why they may not like it. But it is understandable that some companies get upset with people photographing them. I imagine HLS aren't too keen on it these days nor many of the City's investment banks.

    But I wouldn't be that annoyed if I was told to clear off from taking photos from roads around Heathrow whether they are publicly owned or owned by BAA.
     
  10. Paul Russell

    Paul Russell Psychogeographer

    Good point.

     
  11. laptop

    laptop Freudenschade

    Nope.

    The Post Office Tower (Telecom Tower) was notoriously a Prohibited Place until the early 1990s.
     
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Hang on - no one's saying that it's OK to take pictures if you're on their land because they're perfectly within their rights to tell you to fuck off.

    But once you're back on the public highway, you can snap GlaxoSmithKline to your heart's content (with the caveat of committing harassment/obstruction etc).
     
  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    *nudges laptop in the direction of post 44
     
  14. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Makes me want to take photos that aren't allowed just to piss them off.
     
  15. laptop

    laptop Freudenschade

    And who dug up that quote in an earlier thread? Eh? :D
     
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    And it was appreciated, but that's not enough to save you here fella! :d
     
  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm almost tempted to go back next week with my longest lens and biggest camera and snap even more pictures and perhaps incorporate a panorama or two, just for fun.

    :D
     
  18. samk

    samk a hot coal in the folds of morbid obesity

    Yes, it is a nuisance when they are fucking so taking a picture would make me a paedopornographer;) :D :eek:
     
  19. Bob_the_lost

    Bob_the_lost Elsewhere

    You will make any TA center or Army barracks take careful note of you and possibly get the MPs out to ask a few questions if you do hang around taking photos. It's almost certainly legal, but it would not be a good idea to have a load of photos of military buildings on your memory card when doing it.
     
  20. 8ball

    8ball I am Spasticus

    You should take a bunch of other photography enthusiasts along with you and hold a short lecture before letting them loose snapping the place.
     
  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    That's a nice idea. Perhaps they should keep walking up and down the stretch outside the car park while snapping so there'd be no chance of anyone being done for obstruction. Inviting a passing Critical Mass to join in the fun might add a little spice to proceedings too.
     
  22. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Go back with a brutally sharp macro lens in the portrait range and a fucking big flash and get him really angry by refusing to accept his aurthority (take a heavy tripod so you can brain him if he actually attacks you), take his picture looking like a raving loon. Then stick it up on your photo site.
     
  23. trashpony

    trashpony Never knowingly underawed

    They threatened to take my camera away when I was taking photos at Sellafield. When I asked why they wouldn't allow photos, the bloke didn't really seem to know. I suspect they've all seen too many films (and the power in those jobs is quite minimal so you've got to grab it where you can)
     
  24. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    If it was Sellafield, their films come out all foggy anyhow due to random radioactivity.
     
  25. laptop

    laptop Freudenschade

    Parts of it - specifically, at least, the plutonium stores - must be Prohibited Places within the meaning of the Official Secrets Act(s).

    Third anonymous shed from the left as you look from the coast, if I remember correctly :D
     
  26. trashpony

    trashpony Never knowingly underawed

    I only took pictures of the big ball thing with my bf doing 'face of terror' in the foreground. I missed the shed :oops:
     
  27. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Of course, the law gets a bit daft when you consider that there's Google Earth satellites floating overhead and peeps with colossal lens who can snap undetected from miles away.
     
  28. toggle

    toggle wobbly


    the fact they can tell you that the bt tower did not exist also shows it's bloody daft
     
  29. exosculate

    exosculate a stagger with a beat


    Thats good that is.

    As an aside - does anybody know how long copyright exists on old photographs?
     
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    http://www.mda.org.uk/cbasics.htm
     

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