UK airports on critical alert, 18 arrested...
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JHE
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Don't expect Norway to be free of Islamists.Error Gorilla said:
http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002807.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000545.php
Macaroni Pony
globbits
How many people are arrested on suspicion of all sorts of crime, then released with out charge.
2 men the other day were arrested and released with out charge after the attempted murder of that copper in Warrickshire.
I can partially understand morvace's synasism. but let's remember Richard Read who's imprisoned in the US, tried to blow a plane plane up since 911. It only didn't work because it didn't go off.
2 men the other day were arrested and released with out charge after the attempted murder of that copper in Warrickshire.
I can partially understand morvace's synasism. but let's remember Richard Read who's imprisoned in the US, tried to blow a plane plane up since 911. It only didn't work because it didn't go off.
mauvais said:
No it's not. Not the ones that I've seen anyway.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm
craigxcraig
Prefers 'cxc'
Pie 1 said:Did you read my post properly before responding
Certainly did - the point I was making was you'd have to be pretty stoopid to go to all the effort of trying to target a plane when there are much easier targets.
Granted there are a number of different ways of getting something onto a plane, therefore its not totally 'secure' however, it would involve a huge amount of planning and inside help to achieve that goal.
Be interested to see what happens in lebanon, palestine & afghanistan today..
The met deputy commissioner has just said in a press conference that they have 'foiled mass murders on an incredible scale', i think its genuine, though of course we will have to see. i think we will have to extend the hand of friendship to the muslim 'community' (if it was muslims) they will need it.
surely even if this dreadful thing has failed it has caused massive econonomic damge: tourism, business, etc,
surely even if this dreadful thing has failed it has caused massive econonomic damge: tourism, business, etc,
pootle
little moran
What I don't understand is that the police and the govt and other intelligence types were saying that they have uncovered a major terrorist threat...but in all the stuff they uncovered, there was no suggestion that today was the day when these attacks were due to take place.
Why then, all the increased security? I understand that when one terrorist cell gets uncovered, that there may be a reserve team, as it were, but surely any reserve terrorist with half a brain cell, isn't going to try and take down a plane in the next few days, in the immediate wake of the A-Team being rumbled.
What's to stop this happening in the future?
Why then, all the increased security? I understand that when one terrorist cell gets uncovered, that there may be a reserve team, as it were, but surely any reserve terrorist with half a brain cell, isn't going to try and take down a plane in the next few days, in the immediate wake of the A-Team being rumbled.
What's to stop this happening in the future?
craigxcraig said:
It isn’t really about going for the easier target though is it? It is about making a statement. To show that despite extra security in post 9/11 times that planes can still be bombed. If such an act was successful it would send a chilling message, “we can still get your planes”.
Look how quickly the media coverage of the bombs in Mumbai have past. The hysteria and coverage of the downing of 3 western airliners would be immense. That is what they are gunning for.
Um.This was pretty popular reading during the late '60s.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marighella-carlos/1969/06/minimanual-urban-guerrilla/ch32.htm
heres an interesting extract:
"The war of nerves or psychological warfare is an aggressive technique, based on the direct or indirect use of mass media and rumors in order to demoralize the government. In psychological warfare, the government is always at a disadvantage because it imposes censorship on the media and winds up in a defensive position by not allowing anything against it to filter through. At this point, it becomes desperate, is involved in greater contradictions and loss of prestige, and loses time and energy in an exhausting effort at control which is liable to be broken at any moment.
The objective of the war of nerves is to mislead, spreading lies among the authorities in which everyone can participate, thus creating an atmosphere of nervousness, discredit, insecurity, uncertainty and concern on the part of the government. The best methods used by urban guerrillas in the war of nerves are the following: 1. Using the telephone and the mail to announce false clues to the police and government, including information on the planting of bombs and any other act of terrorism in public offices and other places—kidnapping and assassination plans. etc.—to force the authorities to wear themselves out by following up on the false information fed to them; 2. Letting false plans fall into the hands of the police to divert their attention; 3. Planting rumors to make the government uneasy;
4. Exploiting by every means possible the corruption, the mistakes and the failures of the government and its representatives, forcing them into demoralizing explanations and justifications in the very communication media they wish to maintain under censorship; 5. Presenting denunciations to foreign embassies, the United Nations, the papal nunciature, and the international commissions defending human rights or freedom of the press, exposing each concrete violation and each use of violence by the military dictatorship and making it known that the revolutionary war will continue with serious danger
for the enemies of the population. "
Rocket science ? I think not.
pootle said:
No but in Chechnya there were other devices in the near vicinity of the airport. (2 planes were blown up within minutes of each other apparently) Source: 5Live this morning
e2a: According to what I heard this morning, In flight catering trucks were being delayed as well (presumably while being searched)
pootle said:
Nothing really, I suspect it will be ongoing. By the way, security has been increased on all transport links to UK airports with an increased police presence on the underground etc. Stop & Search is being used under the Anti-Terrorism act
e2a: (on routes to transport hubs) again source was 5live this morning
exosculate
a stagger with a beat
Yes they were right at Forest Gate and at Stockwell - not to mention the anthrax that never was.
Sounds like the drip feeding propoganda war to make us citizens accept anything.
Its the equivalent of being at war with Orwells Oceania.
Sounds like the drip feeding propoganda war to make us citizens accept anything.
Its the equivalent of being at war with Orwells Oceania.
xes
F.O.A.D
zenie said:Fucks sake @ this thread!
So 12 people have been arrested is it?
All planes cancelled, Heathrow is shut, but it's all lies right?
Yep,it's all a conspiwacy!!
I've not read the thread,cos I heard it on the news this morning and I just knew that there's be a thread on this. Where people will be saying that it's all a big lie for some reason or other.
Zenie has confirmed this for me.
editor
hiraethified
Call me over-cautious if you like, but I'm going to wait until a few more details emerge before declaring it government spin/owl-feast.
Specifically, I'd like to learn more about the nature of the actual evidence against those arrested.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they could be wrong 'uns, neither is it impossible that the security services have got it spectacularly wrong again.
At least they haven't shot anyone.
Yet.
Specifically, I'd like to learn more about the nature of the actual evidence against those arrested.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that they could be wrong 'uns, neither is it impossible that the security services have got it spectacularly wrong again.
At least they haven't shot anyone.
Yet.
zenie said:Fucks sake @ this thread!
So 12 people have been arrested is it?
All planes cancelled, Heathrow is shut, but it's all lies right?
18 people apparently
exosculate
a stagger with a beat
editor said:
Indeed
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
up to 25 now ... BBC News24pete_w_one said:
zenie said:I stand corrected.
I'm about to get on the tube - take it they are all ok?
I believe so. All I've heard is to go about business as usual but be extra specially vigilant (John Reid this morning)
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