UCKG packing bags at the tills in tesco

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ash, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    I've just complained to Tescos - on the grounds of being a offended homosexual customer. On their customer service feed back form they insist on giving both home and mobile number - I put random numbers in there and said so - asking them to reply by email.

    Tell me which sainsburys and I'll complain to them too
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  2. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    just seen the link sorry - thanks
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  3. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    they were in dalston sainsburys yesterday
  4. ibilly99

    ibilly99 Banned Banned

    If they tried to pack my bags I would have sent them packing but they haven't infiltrated Lidl Peckham yet. Put ol' Miltant to shame with their rampant entryism.
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  5. ibilly99

    ibilly99 Banned Banned

    Anonymous are on the case - God speed their efforts.

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  6. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    One of the former staff at Lidl in Acre Lane was a member. I say former staff because I have seen him hanging around socialising outside UCKG when I was waiting for a 59 bus several times up to quite recently - but haven't seen him in the Lidls for about year. He never brought his personal life into work AFAIK though.
  7. ash

    ash Inittogether

    A letter received after a friend of mine complained to Brixtons manager:

    Good afternoon

    Firstly thank you for your comments regarding the Christmas UCKG bag packing collection in my store, as discussed when a charity organisation contacts us they are checked by my internal team to confirm that they are a registered UK charity, this was the case with the UCKG organisation, it was also confirmed that they have done a similar bag packing exercise instore at Christmas over the last three years.

    Following your feedback I will be contacting the head of fundraising for UCKG to understand how the monies raised will be spent within the Lambeth/London community, I have also put a process inplace to insure that more background checks are carried out by my line managers before future collections are authorised.

    Once again thank you for bringing this matter to my attention.

    Yours faithfully

    Bryan Davis

    Store manager

    Looks a bit lip service will be interesting if they are back next year??
  8. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    i wonder if bryan davis will still be there
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  9. han

    han brixton hill hobbit

    I really don't think the Tesco head office would approve of proselytising religious groups packing bags for donations whether they're a registered charity or not.

    It's dodgy and needs to be stopped. It's obviously a decision that's been made at local level without the knowledge or consent of head office.
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  10. buscador

    buscador culturally dominant

    There was an article on this in The Times yesterday. The online version is slightly different to the printed one so I'll have to type the relevant bit out but it seems Tesco have said: "We have a long history of working with local charities to fundraise in our stores. In this case, the community voiced strong concerns about the UCKG, so we have removed them from our list of approved groups."

    Well done to everyone who complained.
  11. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    I emailed tescos to complain and they replied, but weren't very apologetic - didn't say it wasn't their policy either ( which they did in the Times article) They said it was up to individual managers which local causes they allowed to collect. I insisted they pass on my complaint to him then.
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  12. ash

    ash Inittogether

    Great result -let's hope they are investigated by the Charities commission this time !!!
  13. Psychonaut

    Psychonaut Well-Known Member

    perhaps people could download a few video clips, pictures of mansions etc onto their phones, would be handy if you felt the urge to do an impromptu multimedia presentation to the shopping aisle.

    e2a hopefully they might be banned at all the big stores by next year.
  14. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I can't see what it has to do with the Charity Commission. The Charity Commission does not regulate churches. They do not investigate the money laundering at the Vatican Bank just because millions of British people put a few bob in the collection at Catholic Churches. And by all accounts the Charity Commission like the CoE to invest in the arms industry and tobacco to maintain a "balanced portfolio". I would not put your faith in the Charity Commission!

    If the UCKG is committing criminal offences, money laundering etc then fair enough.
    If they are a coercive cult encouraging belief in witchcraft, demonising gays etc then they should be exposed.

    But to expect the Charity Commission to investigate them for collecting money in Tescos seems a bit extreme!
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  15. Onket

    Onket Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]

    I presume the poster meant the part about UCKG posing as a charity. I may be wrong.
  16. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Problem is that churches are charities by default, including UCKG.

    Unlike France churches and mosques in Britain do not have to be registered by the state. That is one of the issues with rogue Islamic preachers - and rogue pentecostal churches practising exorcism/child abuse/mental cruelty.
    I'm all in favour of regulation - but it is a sensitive subject and definitely not one the Charity Commission currently deals with.
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  17. spitfire

    spitfire Toast

    They're back in Bethnal Green Tesco Metro, I politely informed the young man that packed my bag that I did not give money to the UCKG because I do not like their politics. He took it well, there was no nastiness in either direction but I would like to write to the manager.
  18. spitfire

    spitfire Toast

    And lol at me saying "young man".... :D:oops::facepalm:
  19. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    How do you think the state should regulate us: dictate what we do; what we say what we believe? I'm a Quaker and we've spent centuries resisting of the above. What's wrong with freedom? What's wrong with enforcing existing laws against abuse and cruelty if religious groups break them.?

    As to France, it's hardly a cohesive and United society, is it?
  20. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I don't understand your reaction. I just looked up and there are 38 charities registered with the Charity Commission with the word "Quaker" in the title.
    Charities matching your search ...

    Is it that you are a libertarian don't believe charities should be registered?

    Or do you as a latter day follower of George Fox think the Quakers have betrayed his beliefs, and hanker for the days when people like Fox saw a great light and then went direct to the nearest "Steeple House" to denounce the vicar as not of God, but the King's Man? And presumably likewise the Chairty Commission is the King's Commission?

    Personally I think it highly unlikely that the Streatham Quakers on Brixton Hill would be minded to pack Christmas shopping for customers in Tescos as a fundraising or even a spiritual conversion exercise. If they did I think it is likely that any converts would suffer very little risk of harm from weekly meeting mostly consisting of silent meditation.

    The problem with UCKG is it is a tithing church where members are compelled to pay to belong, maybe 10-15% of their income (even from benefit).
    If you check UKCG charity commission details their DECLARED annual income to Feb 2018 was just under £15 million, which isn't bad
    Charity overview
    The potential for financial abuse (of members) is possibly less than the mental effects - conversion experiences from drug addict or homosexual to happily married men and women may be real, but they may be wishful thinking.

    What about these weird "Chains of Prayer" offered by the Brazilian Bishops of UKCG to effect these miraculous cures? Is this to be put on a par with the Society of Friends prison visiting for example?
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