U.S.-Iran tensions could trigger war - AP

[nino_savatte]

Right, Iran is totally innocent. Good government, strong leader, uranium enrichment, strong human rights record and now the big bad US is fucking with them.

You people are brillant, you make it all so simple!

When are you going to enlist, mears?

Your first paragraph could easily apply to the US btw.

Btw, what is a "Day Trader"? Do you swap days with other people? "Hey, I'll swap you two Fridays for your one Sunday".

 

[Aldebaran]

Do retarded people fly jets?

Yes. Why do you think piloting a jet to be so difficult that you need an exceptional IQ to do it?

salaam.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Right, Iran is totally innocent. Good government, strong leader, uranium enrichment, strong human rights record and now the big bad US is fucking with them.

You people are brillant, you make it all so simple!

No-one has claimed that "Iran is totally innocent".

If you're going to challenge, then at least challenge what people have written, not what the voices in your head tell you they've written.

Pathetic.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Do retarded people fly jets?

Idiot savants do.
Hey, so Bush found the one thing his semi-autism allowed him to do well at, that doesn't mean he isn't a gimp.

When you have the best military in the world you use it a leverage. It would be utterly retarded not to do so.

You don't have "the best military in the world", you have the best-equipped military in the world. It's an entirely different thing.
If your entire military was trained to the degree your marine corps is you might have a point, but as it is...

 

[ViolentPanda]

There was a brigade-sized force of British troops around Basra last I heard. That's about 5-8000 troops depending on what's attached to them.

Given the number of people who'd probably be trying to kill them in the event of Bush or his Likud pals attacking Iran, 'involved' might be too mild a word to describe the likely outcome.

If Basra gets turned into a pocket, which it very well could given the geography and the demographics of the region, then with only one direction they can take toward relative safety (southward into the sea) we may be looking, at best, at a mini-Dunkirk.

 

[nino_savatte]

Idiot savants do.
Hey, so Bush found the one thing his semi-autism allowed him to do well at, that doesn't mean he isn't a gimp.

You don't have "the best military in the world", you have the best-equipped military in the world. It's an entirely different thing.
If your entire military was trained to the degree your marine corps is you might have a point, but as it is...

That's the distinction and it's one that mears and his fellow travellers continue to ignore. The best technology that money can buy is useless when all you have are trained gorillas to operate the stuff.

 

[8ball]

Hey, so Bush found the one thing his semi-autism allowed him to do well at, that doesn't mean he isn't a gimp.

Why the completely unwarranted jab at autistic people?

He's just a common-or-garden moron.

 

[8ball]

And do what? Walk from A to B, then listen to a bunch of speeches while having the same impact we did last time we bothered?

No, this time we firebomb no. 10 and Buck Pal, destroying all US businesses en route. We can deploy snipers to counter any police interference.

 

[ViolentPanda]

No, this time we firebomb no. 10 and Buck Pal, destroying all US businesses en route. We can deploy snipers to counter any police interference.

Nah, not a firebomb.

Machine gun nests (with interlocking fields of fire, obviously ) at each end of the front and back of Downing St. That way you can make sure you mop up all the cabinet and advisor scum too.

 

[8ball]

Getting a bit out of my league now but the more the merrier.

I'll just chuck a few Molotov's from the sidelines.

 

[snadge]

Apparently so. It’s a miracle – and a damn shame for the world – that the stupid drunken fuck didn’t manage to kill himself.

didn't he fail flight exams and "dissapear" when doing national service?

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

Reinforcing the rhetoric in the US are television adverts, depicting Iran as a nuclear menace and demanding tougher UN sanctions.

Any posters know who's doing these ads?

Not the first time ads have appeared in the US press regarding 'Iran's Nuclear ambitions', is it?

 

[Aldebaran]

That is really hilarious. It would be fun to see this flashing all over US TV screens for weeks.
With as comment:
"The Great Shah, our loyal and trustworthy ally, was overthrown by the vicious regime who's threat we face now. Must we let them use our former friend's wisdom to produce weapons that threaten Our Great Country and Our Way of Life?"

Can you imagine the hysterical reactions? A PR stunt of which the Bush Clan didn't see the potential. They need other advisers, I tell you.

salaam.

 

[mears]

Idiot savants do.
Hey, so Bush found the one thing his semi-autism allowed him to do well at, that doesn't mean he isn't a gimp.

You don't have "the best military in the world", you have the best-equipped military in the world. It's an entirely different thing.
If your entire military was trained to the degree your marine corps is you might have a point, but as it is...

Are you listening to yourself, you are actually calling him semi-autistic? Your hatred knows no bounds.

Bush is the most powerful man in the world and thats just the way it is. That is the source of your anger and there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[mears]

You people should develop some ideology, some type of shared beliefs, stand for something real.

The only thing that binds the losers of the European left together is their hatred for George W. Bush, hardly the most intellectual of positions.

I wonder who you will hate when he is gone?

 

[8ball]

Are you listening to yourself, you are actually calling him semi-autistic? Your hatred knows no bounds.

Damn right!

Leave autistic people out of this - we don't want tarring with the Bush brush, thanks

 

[DrRingDing]

You people should develop some ideology, some type of shared beliefs, stand for something real.

The only thing that binds the losers of the European left together is their hatred for George W. Bush, hardly the most intellectual of positions.

Are you trolling or genuinely that thick?

 

[8ball]

mears has been about on the boards on and off for some time

he's no troll

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Well, he has troll-like characteristics, but they've developed over time as it became clear that he was losing all the actual arguments.

For example, there was a time a few years back when he could still at least try make a case that it was possible that Iraq might become a peaceful democratic pro-US state and have a rational argument with people about that.

Now we all know it's a complete disaster, as most of us predicted at the time, people are just going to laugh at him if he says stuff like that, so he has to fall back on all this 'you have no arguments, you just hate America because it's so powerful' sort of stuff.

 

[8ball]

I didn't think people really hated Bush all that much anyway, just ridiculed him.

Personally, my hatred is reserved for the puppeteers, not the puppet.

 

[Aldebaran]

Bush is the most powerful man in the world and thats just the way it is.

Please prove this. In detail.

salaam.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you listening to yourself, you are actually calling him semi-autistic? Your hatred knows no bounds.

I don't hate him.
I feel pity and contempt for him.

Bush is the most powerful man in the world and thats just the way it is. That is the source of your anger and there is nothing you can do about it.

Well, I can see why you absolutely have to believe that, given that you've constructed your entire online persona around such a belief, but let me assure you that, as usual, you're so far off the mark as to have not only missed the target, but to have hit a bystander in a neighbouring county.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Please prove this. In detail.

salaam.

Mears has a fixation with a Spenglerite vision of European moral decay and population decline, and the ascendancy and hegemony of American (military, economic and moral) power, with Bush being the epitome of that power..

He entirely misses the point that it is not the puppet that has power, it is those who have their hands up the puppet's rectum.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you trolling or genuinely that thick?

Neither, imho.

It's that ole "cognitive dissonance" working in his pointy little head, helping him to avoid coming into contact with any inconvenient truths.

 

[nino_savatte]

Are you listening to yourself, you are actually calling him semi-autistic? Your hatred knows no bounds.

Bush is the most powerful man in the world and thats just the way it is. That is the source of your anger and there is nothing you can do about it.

Oh Christ, it's the "My dad is bigger than your dad" riposte...again.

I see you've also managed to get two of the Republican 'words of rebuttal' into this post too: "hatred" and "anger". FFS!

 

[mears]

Please prove this. In detail.

salaam.

Uhm, he is the leader of the most powerful nation (militarially, economically, culturally) in the world.

Not sure what other detail you want

That is not chest thumping or bragging, it is just the way it is.

 

[8ball]

He is the figurehead of the most powerful nation (militarially[sic], economically, culturally my arse!) in the world.

 

[mears]

Mears has a fixation with a Spenglerite vision of European moral decay and population decline, and the ascendancy and hegemony of American (military, economic and moral) power, with Bush being the epitome of that power..

He entirely misses the point that it is not the puppet that has power, it is those who have their hands up the puppet's rectum.

Oh, I see its those people who call the shots behind the scenes. Bush is a pawn for "other powers". He becomes President yet defers to those beneath him in the pecking order, makes perfect sense.

 

[8ball]

Oh, I see its those people who call the shots behind the scenes. Bush is a pawn for "other powers". He becomes President yet defers to those beneath him in the pecking order, makes perfect sense.

Error in bold.

 

[mears]

He is the figurehead of the most powerful nation (militarially[sic], economically, culturally my arse!) in the world.

So if not Bush, who really wields the power in the US?