type of kids you hate the most???? (teachers)

[Johnny Canuck3]

that doesn't really work in britain lol

But it might work in Korea...

 

[scifisam]

Most patronising poster award goes to...

Whatever. It is an idealised view of teaching, and it's sweet that some people still have that idealised view.

Johnny, how can you be proud of driving someone to a nervous breakdown? Just how bad was the teacher to deserve that? Did he/she frequently smack kids around or something? Or was having a British accent enough to justify ruining their careers?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Whatever. It is an idealised view of teaching, and it's sweet that some people still have that idealised view.

Johnny, how can you be proud of driving someone to a nervous breakdown? Just how bad was the teacher to deserve that? Did he/she frequently smack kids around or something? Or was having a British accent enough to justify ruining their careers?

We were proud back then. Now, it's just a fact of life.

These were bad teachers. Yes, they smacked people around, or they psychologically abused them. They just didn't factor in the resilience and resourcefulness of kids.

There were also good teachers whom we adored, and who never got any trouble from the majority of kids.

I recall getting strapped in grade 2. I was seven years old. I can't recall the number of strokes per hand. It was because I hadn't done my homework. I had nightmares about that for years afterward. That was a teacher we would have taken to task, but at seven years old, we weren't hard enough yet.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Or was having a British accent enough to justify ruining their careers?

In reality, one of my favourite teachers was my Grade 8 French teacher, an englishman by the name of Mr. Hornsby. I'm sure he's dead by now.

He was an excellent teacher. I remember, some student would be talking in the back of the class and Hornsby would yell out 'Gasworks!' He was stern, but the things he said caught us off guard and made us laugh, but also listen.

I think I learned more French that year, than any other in grade school.

 

[scifisam]

We were proud back then. Now, it's just a fact of life.

These were bad teachers. Yes, they smacked people around, or they psychologically abused them. They just didn't factor in the resilience and resourcefulness of kids.

There were also good teachers whom we adored, and who never got any trouble from the majority of kids.

I recall getting strapped in grade 2. I was seven years old. I can't recall the number of strokes per hand. It was because I hadn't done my homework. I had nightmares about that for years afterward. That was a teacher we would have taken to task, but at seven years old, we weren't hard enough yet.

Ah, that does sound bad enough for 'retalition,' then. Bit of a battleground.

At first, though, your post sounded like the kind of kid over here, where the teachers don't do anything like that (and can't), but the kids still delight in making their lives Hell. I once overheard a group of kids jubilating over making a (nice, new, eager) teacher cry. I guess those are the kinds of kids I do dislike at least a bit! Fortunately, there aren't many of them.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I went to grade school at a time when corporal punishment was still meted out regularly. I saw kids get strapped in class, ears twisted, hands hit with rulers, hair pulled, etc.

I don't think the rules for getting in as a teacher were as tight back then. Some of these people were grade A certifiable psychos. Like I said, you'd get into a classroom with them, they'd close the door on the outside world, and it was war.

 

[Idaho]

Whatever. It is an idealised view of teaching, and it's sweet that some people still have that idealised view.

Johnny, how can you be proud of driving someone to a nervous breakdown? Just how bad was the teacher to deserve that? Did he/she frequently smack kids around or something? Or was having a British accent enough to justify ruining their careers?

There is nothing sweet about being optimistic as a teacher. I would think that your cynicism and lack of belief in your pupils suggests you aren't really suited to a 'career' in teaching.

 

[pogofish]

Johnny, how can you be proud of driving someone to a nervous breakdown? Just how bad was the teacher to deserve that?

We drove one of our teachers into quitting the profession for politics & took some considerable pleasure in it. He truly deserved it BTW, as a teacher, he was a complete waste of space who couldn't communicate his subject, never mind establish any sort of professional relationships with his kids.

As a councillor & later New-Labour MP, the odious little arselicker did little better & I'm truly amazed that he is now on some quango for transatlantic securty. With talents like him behind the scenes, no wonder we are taking it big-time from the US!

 

[Spion]

There is nothing sweet about being optimistic as a teacher. I would think that your cynicism and lack of belief in your pupils suggests you aren't really suited to a 'career' in teaching.

Why shouldn't a teacher be optimistic about the potential of a child? Why is that cynicism or lack of belief? And why take scifisam to task when he/she was only expressing approval of an earlier poster's view?

 

[Idaho]

Er.. Yeah. What he said.

 

[Spion]

Who? Pogofish? You've truly lost me. There's no explanation there at all

 

[Idaho]

I think we have all lost each other.

 

[pogofish]

Who? Pogofish? You've truly lost me. There's no explanation there at all

He was an odious little cunt who couldn't teach or even establish some sort of rapport with his pupils. We were stuck with him for several years on end & made his life hell for it until he quit the proffession to follow his life's true calling.

 

[Spion]

He was an odious little cunt who couldn't teach or even establish some sort of rapport with his pupils. We were stuck with him for several years on end & made his life hell for it until he quit the proffession to follow his life's true calling.

Yes, I've seen that already. I was just puzzled why Idaho appeared to be taking out scifisam at knee level

 

[stupid kid]

My french teacher used to throw the board rubber at naughty boys,,

My Geography teacher (who was an extremely patient and mild mannered woman) once threw a board marker and it hit a student in the head (not very hard but not soft either). And this was in 2001. Funniest part was nothing happening about it.

 

[ICB]

drippy kids for me. little stupid fucking twats who don't want to be there. god, i would fucking puch some of them in the face if i had the chance, ....but sulky kids deserve some for of physical punishment imo. they would honestly not regret being smacked when they start acting like a negative useless little cunt in 10 years time. they don't need love, they just need a slap

Sounds like a lad I have on work placement at the moment, poor sod got bullied to fuck, he's so shy he can hardly talk above an incoherent mumble and can't look anyone squarely in the eyes.

 

[SubZeroCat]

Can't be arsed to start a new thread but it's the teachers and their shit spelling that's pissing me off (I'm typing up loads of reports) - what kind of teacher can't spell "tries" (trys!) and "lose" (loose) !!

 

[kakuma]

Sounds like a lad I have on work placement at the moment, poor sod got bullied to fuck, he's so shy he can hardly talk above an incoherent mumble and can't look anyone squarely in the eyes.

nah, i don't mind shy kids. there's a girl who i teach who has only said about 10 words the whole time i've been here and she just tends to sit and draw cool pictures

it's the ones who will let you know they don't want to be there, but rather than by being naughty or cheeky, they just sulk and roll their eyes all the time.....

 

[kakuma]

Can't be arsed to start a new thread but it's the teachers and their shit spelling that's pissing me off (I'm typing up loads of reports) - what kind of teacher can't spell "tries" (trys!) and "lose" (loose) !!

yeah but if you have to sit and write 100s of reports saying that 'your son isn't stupid, but he would do 10 times better if he applied himself more.....' you're going to want a bottle of wine or two.....

 

[scifisam]

Why shouldn't a teacher be optimistic about the potential of a child? Why is that cynicism or lack of belief? And why take scifisam to task when he/she was only expressing approval of an earlier poster's view?

(FTR: I'm a she).

I am actually somewhat cynical about teaching being a vocation, or about all disruptive kids being that way because of their homelife (actually, I do think it's not their fault or their responsibility - well, not completely, not at that age - but I don't think it's all down to their homelife). However, I do genuinely appreciate that some people still see teachers as a guide, nothing punitive, always helpful. It's not the way it is right now, but there's nothing wrong with having an ideal to base your standards on.

Idaho - I agree that teachers should be optimistic, but you seem to have misread the post by impludo. He/she is not a teacher, so what I referred to as 'sweet' was his positive view of teaching.

 

[Red Horse]

drippy kids for me. little stupid fucking twats who don't want to be there. god, i would fucking puch some of them in the face if i had the chance, rowdy kids are annoying, but sulky kids deserve some for of physical punishment imo. they would honestly not regret being smacked when they start acting like a negative useless little cunt in 10 years time. they don't need love, they just need a slap

sounds like you've been in the esl game too long Ninj, i know what you mean though, when ive got cunts sleeping and turning their noses up at my lesson i just say 'go back to your fucking dorm and i'll give you 0%' they dont move but then rebellion hasn't really caught on yet in China. My classmates are Korean and they are so fucking apathetic, right mardy cunts some of them

 

[panpete]

(FTR: I'm a she).

I am actually somewhat cynical about teaching being a vocation, or about all disruptive kids being that way because of their homelife (actually, I do think it's not their fault or their responsibility - well, not completely, not at that age - but I don't think it's all down to their homelife). However, I do genuinely appreciate that some people still see teachers as a guide, nothing punitive, always helpful. It's not the way it is right now, but there's nothing wrong with having an ideal to base your standards on.

Idaho - I agree that teachers should be optimistic, but you seem to have misread the post by impludo. He/she is not a teacher, so what I referred to as 'sweet' was his positive view of teaching.

Children are our future, and spend a very long time in teachers company.
Teaching must be a vocation, I wouldnt do it as I am not cut out.
This is not idealisation, its what we should expect for the future adults of our country.
Good Behaviour rewarded, and bad behaviour ignored and therefore the reward of attention is not gained by negative behaviour.
I firmly believe that any kid who acts out against another person, in any way, is disturbed, by their home lifes.
The personality is formed by reactions to experiences.
Adults can help kids accquire genuine coping and problem solving skills, or they can hinder them,
Just dont complain when youre being looked after by one of them in your old age. And the person looking after you is a sadistic psychopath, who dosent give a shit about you, as adults have knocked his end in, by stripping bare what litttle confidence he had.

Fucking Christ - I really thought we had moved on.

Any teacher who is in the job, for any other reason than the vocation of child guidance, should have a good long hard think about their future, and any other kids future they may be helping to fuck up.

 

[scifisam]

(FTR: I'm a she).

I am actually somewhat cynical about teaching being a vocation, or about all disruptive kids being that way because of their homelife (actually, I do think it's not their fault or their responsibility - well, not completely, not at that age - but I don't think it's all down to their homelife). However, I do genuinely appreciate that some people still see teachers as a guide, nothing punitive, always helpful. It's not the way it is right now, but there's nothing wrong with having an ideal to base your standards on.

Idaho - I agree that teachers should be optimistic, but you seem to have misread the post by impludo. He/she is not a teacher, so what I referred to as 'sweet' was his positive view of teaching.

Children are our future, and spend a very long time in teachers company.
Teaching must be a vocation, I wouldnt do it as I am not cut out.
This is not idealisation, its what we should expect for the future adults of our country.
Good Behaviour rewarded, and bad behaviour ignored and therefore the reward of attention is not gained by negative behaviour.
I firmly believe that any kid who acts out against another person, in any way, is disturbed, by their home lifes.
The personality is formed by reactions to experiences.
Adults can help kids accquire genuine coping and problem solving skills, or they can hinder them,
Just dont complain when youre being looked after by one of them in your old age. And the person looking after you is a sadistic psychopath, who dosent give a shit about you, as adults have knocked his end in, by stripping bare what litttle confidence he had.

Fucking Christ - I really thought we had moved on.

Any teacher who is in the job, for any other reason than the vocation of child guidance, should have a good long hard think about their future, and any other kids future they may be helping to fuck up.

Cue empty schools as the majority of the teaching staff leave!

I don't know how you can post all that and not claim it's an idealised view. However, like I said before, I'm with people still having idealised views of teaching, in some ways - it's better than criticism and low-status.

However, please note that there is a middle ground between 'not blaming little Johnny for anything they do, and never punish them,' and 'stripping bare what little confidence he had,' thus turning him into a sadistic psychopath. I won't be stripping any of my pupils of anything, thanks!