London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
If exploring and curiosity had been nurtured out of the species, we'd still be trying to look above the grass in ther Rift Valley, is my rather radical opionion.
I wonder how many of the people on this thread who are scandalised that someone might lose sight of their toddler for a second or not have a grip on them for every second of the day (and their other children too if they have them), are the primary carers for the children.

If exploring and curiosity had been nurtured out of the species, we'd still be trying to look above the grass in ther Rift Valley, is my rather radical opionion.

Care to explain where you're coming from with that comment?

I wonder how many of the people on this thread who are scandalised that someone might lose sight of their toddler for a second or not have a grip on them for every second of the day (and their other children too if they have them), are the primary carers for the children.
50/50 with us, for info.


50/50 with us, for info. I rather suspect there may be a stereotype or two lurking in the background of your question. Am I wrong?
As I was reading the thread I noted that the people who were shocked and horrified were poster that I thought were men, and those saying FFS were women, often single mums, but didn't know. Generally speaking women are more often the primary carers, even today, in two thousand and nine. So I did wonder if there was a trend. Which is why I said ''I wonder''.Not at all.As I was reading the thread I noted that the people who were shocked and horrified were poster that I thought were men, but didn't know. Generally speaking women are more often the primary carers, even today, in two thousand and nine. So I did wonder if there was a trend. Which is why I said ''I wonder''.

Cool. It just pisses me off when people assume I don't do an equal part of it because I'm male.![]()
Of course if you do things 50/50 then neither of you is the primary carer so you are perhaps not as frazzled as someone who has sole charge of their children 70 or more % of the time. Talking generalities, obviously. Every family is different.
Cool. It just pisses me off when people assume I don't do an equal part of it because I'm male.![]()

That is annoying.
I have shared 'custody' of my son, and everything is split down the middle, money, time, the lot, so it does piss me off when I say that I have my son half the time and two minutes later I get asked 'do you only have him at weekends'...?
People have a real problem getting their head around the idea of a 'seperated' father that wants to be there and be responsible and give the time and the effort and the love it takes to raise and care and stand by a child.
...but on the other hand I was talking to some guy last week and he said 'yeah, I want to see my girls, but if I had them on Friday and Saturday then I wouldn't have a social life....I want my girls and I want my life...'![]()
Heh! My teen used to do that.![]()
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My mum did that to me tooMy mam left me outside a shop in my pushchair when I was a baby and went home.![]()
I can understand why that would be upsetting for you when you have a 50/50 deal going on but unfortunately not all dads and mums want or have that. It is not the norm, no matter how much we would like it to be.


....and I'm not afraid of pushchairs
It's not the norm, you're right, and that's sad because I have benefitted so much from sticking to my guns and seeing through what I started. If I get to my old age and my son can honestly tell me I was a good father, then I'll know I've achieved something valuable for him and for me.
He'll probably tell me I was a moody cunt!![]()

That taking your kid out for fun time on your own for a couple of hours on a saturday is a bit different from having to be the one who has to do everything that they have to do day in day out with a toddler (or more) in tow.
Being 100% alert 100% of the time isn't that easy.
I rather suspect there may be a stereotype or two lurking in the background of your question. Am I wrong?
That taking your kid out for fun time on your own for a couple of hours on a saturday is a bit different from having to be the one who has to do everything that they have to do day in day out with a toddler (or more) in tow.
Being 100% alert 100% of the time isn't that easy.
Well I have my daughter 100% of the time.
That taking your kid out for fun time on your own for a couple of hours on a saturday is a bit different from having to be the one who has to do everything that they have to do day in day out with a toddler (or more) in tow.
Being 100% alert 100% of the time isn't that easy.
We have no idea what the situation was for the OPs girl. That's why I asked.
Is it? It's a terrible thing to happen but I can't let my two year old out of my sight for a second, and in a crowded area??? I can't think of any excuses for that off the top of my head.
Hope she is found safely and quick. Have the police etc been informed? I would have thought a 2 year old alone would get reported pretty sharpish.
Well I have my daughter 100% of the time. Sure I can take my eyes off here around the house etc etc. If we are walking down the street I always have my eyes on her, it's really not that hard and if anything about bringing up a kid gives me a headache. . . well that really isn't it. It's easy. If the pavement gets busy she is always holding my hand (or I pick her up). If we are going along a narrow pavement, in a busy area or by a busy road, I pick her up. It's easy. I rarely use pushchairs but they also exist.
My daughter played hide and seek among the trouser rail in M&S.Yes, two year olds with a tendency to run off will probably be stabbing people by the time they're 14![]()

Mine says "Okay mummy, bye."![]()


Is that aimed at me or just in general? You know my contact situation?
What a stupid assumption to make. Are you of the opinion that all non resident parents only have ''fun time'' for a few hours on a saturday? If so then you're a bit of knob head!