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citygirl said:
but if we don't let any more immigrants in...who are we gunna get to do all the menial dirty and demeaning jobs that "british" workers don't WANT to do, eh?..... that's the question....(oooh i hate the "british" term... infact..detest would not be too strong a word to use...)
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The single mums, the ill, the sick and the disabled. Are you not up to to speed on current policy?
 
Stoat Boy said:
Surely all of the main political parties have become more anti-immigration over the last few years ? Or perhaps you can enlighten me on which one of the main 3 are promoting a pro-immigration agenda ?
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Just because all the craven self serving media whores in parliament have decided to pander to racism in order to chase votes doesn't stop it being racism. It just makes it racism that isn't challenged by politicians.
 
If we forget the lessons of history then we end up repeating them. As there is no shortage of bloodshed in the past, I was hoping we would find a way to cling on to lessons rather than have to learn them all over again.

Being born in 1975 its sort of felt like I was watching an era slip away and I was only able to grasp any sense of it via the media and a few members of family. I suspect this is just part of growing up and getting old but maybe the timing in my generation was aligned with a period of greater change than some decades see, I dunno.

World War 2 is an interesting one. No end of books, films & documentaries & school lessons have kept it fresh in the minds of sucessive generations, yet I wonder how much of its essense and lessons are still slipping away, especially as the people who were adults during it are fading fast.

Oh as usual I dont have a very cohesive idea of what Im talking about, and when I look at younger generations today Im tempted to think it is more about not remembering the Thatcher years, the changes to our TV (eg the pace, tone and depth of news, reality tv & American cultural imports) and easy credit/lots of shopping than forgetting the lessons of World War 2.
 
ericjarvis said:
Just because all the craven self serving media whores in parliament have decided to pander to racism in order to chase votes doesn't stop it being racism. It just makes it racism that isn't challenged by politicians.
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So anybody who opposes open door immigration into this country is racist ?
 
World War 2 is an interesting one. No end of books, films & documentaries & school lessons have kept it fresh in the minds of sucessive generations, yet I wonder how much of its essense and lessons are still slipping away, especially as the people who were adults during it are fading fast.
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er, plenty of WW2 vets, etc supported Enoch Powell
 
Well Im not trying to suggest that WW2 vets were all enlightened in that regard, and Im not sure how much many people in world war 2 understood about what fascism meant in a broad or detailed sense, only some of the horrors it can cause. One of the last things my Grandad, and RAF vet said to me was that 'Nixon did some good things'. But that generation did, along with others, see the introduction of mass immigration into this country without too many of them voting for non-mainstream extremist parties.

There are certain aspects of fascism which are repugnant to a certain element of the British psyche, and this is a big barrier to the BNP. Lots of people with nasty views would rather the 'respectable', mainstream parties do the nasty stuff for them, and really dont understand why their views on immigration and suchlike are not represented by the mainstream.
 
I just expressed surprise at this in my facebook status and immediately got this reply from a "friend" from school that I haven't seen for years:

get in! Bnp all the way! Andy you live away. Come and see!

Jesus suffering fuck.

What shall I reply to him?
 
I dont know. Someone I showed the local Nuneaton results to at work said 'its nice to see the BNP doing better'. Normally I would rant in response but he'd heard it all before from me so I didnt bother too much. I was expecting a possible BNP win or 2 in my part of Warwickshire (esp as we already have a bnp borough councillor or two) so Im moderately surprised that neighbouring Leicestershire has that dubious honor rather than us.

Ive been looking at 2005 local results for some of my local wards for comparison with this year, the things that stick out are that the BNP and the Greens didnt field candidates in many or any wards last time, the Lib Dems have fielded less this time, and quite how much higher the turnout was last time (although this is no doubt in large part due to the fact that last time it was a general election too, not just the expenses scandal.) In my ward about a thousand Labour votes vanished, 300 Tory votes, The Lib Dem and his 894 votes didnt stand thsi time, The BNP appeared with 529 votes, greens appeared with 254, and there were about 1400 less votes in total than in 2005. I think I am done geeking out on extremely local results for now.
 
Small satisfaction for me is that Lancaster, where I live now, has elected another Green County Council member, so that's two Greens for Lancaster on the CC.

I really don't understand the BNP result in my hometown though. Coalville is whiter than white but an ex-mining community (hence the name) of mainly decent working class voters. Why go to the fascists? Why?

If it's a protest vote it's a pretty shit one.
 
PursuedByBears said:
Small satisfaction for me is that Lancaster, where I live now, has elected another Green County Council member, so that's two Greens for Lancaster on the CC.

I really don't understand the BNP result in my hometown though. Coalville is whiter than white but an ex-mining community (hence the name) of mainly decent working class voters. Why go to the fascists? Why?

If it's a protest vote it's a pretty shit one.
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I posted this on another thread in general last week and feel it's apt for this one.

It's appears also that the BNP gets its support 'from areas that have experienced change nearby, rather than in their own immediate neighbourhoods and where people fear that their area, and indeed the country, is ‘being taken over’.'

The report makes clear that immigration and asylum seekers 'have become symbols for the frustrations and fears of everyday life which is, according to the authors of the report, felt in 'largely working class areas' and that this is where 'the potential for growth for the BNP lies.'
 
Prick

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Mr Davies says he wants to stamp out political correctness​
 
:)

This Mayor is going to be good value.

Its going to be interesting to see if they can build on this and I wonder if they are eyeing up the up-coming by election in Norwich ?
 
Like a bit of good old fashioned tory gay bashing do you Stoaky? Must be disappointed in Cameron’s new fluffy wuffy party then…
 
Jeff Robinson said:
Like a bit of good old fashioned tory gay bashing do you Stoaky? Must be disappointed in Cameron’s new fluffy wuffy party then…
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I must admit to not being the greatest fan of being all kind to the Gay, no.

But its hardly gay bashing is it ? He is merely withdrawing public funding for gay pride marches.
 
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