Two arrests at Liverpool Street Station.

[liberty]

Police are saying scene over in Liverpool St but still looking for suspect packages

 

[liberty]

Saying it was two women arrested

 

[knopf]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4728619.stm

Story finally on the BBC.

An eyewitness told BBC News that plainclothes police "suddenly burst into the main centre of the station and arrested two women".

"Initially there was obviously a bit of chaos. They tried to push people away and tried to stop people taking pictures with their mobile telephones," he said.

 

[gabi]

I think its because if the people in question are innocent and their pictures get splashed over the papers tomorrow morning, that ain't good from a legal standpoint.

I imagine that innocent guy on Whitehall who the Metro decided to splash over the front page last week is looking at his options. The Beeb was told to stop filming, but clearly the damage was done.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I imagine that innocent guy on Whitehall who the Metro decided to splash over the front page last week is looking at his options. The Beeb was told to stop filming, but clearly the damage was done.

Eh? I missed that one.

 

[rennie]

where were you?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

God knows.

 

[ddraig]

in the 'pretty shitty city' weren't you?

 

[Poi E]

I think its because if the people in question are innocent and their pictures get splashed over the papers tomorrow morning, that ain't good from a legal standpoint.

That's awfully nice of the police, having the best interests of those they are arresting and detaining at heart.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

in the 'pretty shitty city' weren't you?

Probably. I may have missed Metro that day though.

 

[ddraig]

Probably. I may have missed Metro that day though.

i mean swansea and they certainly don't get the metro there, not even at the station, well unless you scour an intercity 125 just in from london.


also - was his pic not on the front of the mirror in their terror montage?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

See what I mean? I can't even remember where I was.

Anyway, what happened?

 

[rennie]

some poor chap got arrested around downing street/whitehall n manhandled away... all innocent n all caught on camera.

 

[Cloo]

Something tells me this one will come to nowt.

 

[ddraig]

basically it was all going off and there was some poor 'asian' bloke unfortunately walking down whitehall who got guns pointed at him and told to lie on the floor, the bbc were showing some of it which was a bit nasty and they got told to turn off their cameras which they did. some other footage was shown later from a different angle with the petrified bloke trying to unbutton his shirt whilst face down on the floor and 2 marksmen closing in on him.

the next day iirc it was on the front of the mirror and the metro.
afaik he was totally innocent and i hope he gets a proper apology and some serious compo. totally out of order to
1) show any of that on live tv, he could've been 'nuetralised' and 2) putting him on the front of a national paper after he was obviously innocent.

grrrrr

 

[Donna Ferentes]

some poor chap got arrested around downing street/whitehall n manhandled away... all innocent n all caught on camera.

Did Metro make any claims about him in the manner that the Standard did about Mr de Menezes?

 

[trashpony]

No, I don't think so. It was more along the lines of 'a suspect is questioned'. That was the day that all sorts of shit was going down though so I think they had an awful lot to report. And also of course, they didn't shoot him.

 

[Poi E]

basically it was all going off and there was some poor 'asian' bloke unfortunately walking down whitehall who got guns pointed at him and told to lie on the floor, the bbc were showing some of it which was a bit nasty and they got told to turn off their cameras which they did. some other footage was shown later from a different angle with the petrified bloke trying to unbutton his shirt whilst face down on the floor and 2 marksmen closing in on him.

the next day iirc it was on the front of the mirror and the metro.
afaik he was totally innocent and i hope he gets a proper apology and some serious compo. totally out of order to
1) show any of that on live tv, he could've been 'nuetralised' and 2) putting him on the front of a national paper after he was obviously innocent.

grrrrr

Showing what our public servants are doing on the streets of London is very important IMO.

 

[ddraig]

Showing what our public servants are doing on the streets of London is very important IMO.

i agree with that, and it's very good in a way that you get to see stuff you never would, but imagine if they had shot him, on tv in the afternoon. again it would be there for all to see and accountable but still not nice. and i was thinking more of him/family/people shit scared it's going to happen to them...
and children.

but yes, it's still better than a news blackout

 

[Isambard]

I appreciate that getting your picture splashed all over the papers like the bloke in Whitehall when you are innocent is awful. However I don't like the idea of the police trying to stop a public event (particuarly when they are involved) being recorded.

Too many times there have been cases where police mistreatment has only been halted because there were witnesses

 

[Poi E]

Snap away at the cops. Keeps 'em on their toes.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Well, it could just be that the cops were telling people to get out of the way and stop standing around filming it on their mobiles, rather than actively trying to stop them filming it on their mobiles, which would make a certain sort of sense. At this stage I couldn't really say that it indicates a "no photo" policy.

 

[ddraig]

Well, it could just be that the cops were telling people to get out of the way and stop standing around filming it on their mobiles, rather than actively trying to stop them filming it on their mobiles, which would make a certain sort of sense. At this stage I couldn't really say that it indicates a "no photo" policy.

that is how it was reported by an eyewitness, that they seemed to be actively stopping people taking pics and filming

and there is one shot on the news from further away of them taking one woman away, bit grainy tho

 

[FridgeMagnet]

One eyewitness. Who may not have meant that. I thought we'd learnt about trusting the first words about anything coming out of a witnesses mouth in initial reports?

If that's what they're doing then we'll hear more about it than that.

edit:

and there is one shot on the news from further away of them taking one woman away, bit grainy tho

which would indicate that they weren't stopping people using phonecams

 

[laptop]

Snap away at the cops. Keeps 'em on their toes.

Which is why it's quite routine for cops to try to stop people taking pictures. Sometimes a raised eyebrow makes the point that they mustn't, I am told; sometimes a Press Card does it.

From time to time professionals end up spending a night in the cells to make the point that it is rather important to reccord what the servants of the state get up to. Then years later the professionals get compensation - £25k for a third arrest, I seem to remember

 

[ddraig]

One eyewitness. Who may not have meant that. I thought we'd learnt about trusting the first words about anything coming out of a witnesses mouth in initial reports?

If that's what they're doing then we'll hear more about it than that.

edit:

which would indicate that they weren't stopping people using phonecams

i agree about trusting reports

and what i meant by being further away was like it alsmost looked like the pic was taken from outside looking in, or from quite a distance in the station. imo anyway.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It does look like an enlargement and enhancement from a phone or other digicam, yeah.

I've just realised I know precisely where that is. Odd seeing that sort of thing in places that you know.

 

[dormouse]

I've just realised I know precisely where that is. Odd seeing that sort of thing in places that you know.

It is indeed. I live in the street next to Portnall Road, where there was a raid last week.

Before that I lived in Tavistock Road.

It's starting to get worrying!