Turning up the heat on Bush & Blair: the military

[TAE]

Did you guys see 30Min on C4 at 7.30 tonight.

British general said he would have resigned his commision if he had been ordered to invade Iraq. Strong stuff.

 

[rogue yam]

British general said he would have resigned his commision if he had been ordered to invade Iraq.

What did this same General say three years ago, I wonder?

 

[TeeJay]

Military Review is a U.S. Army publication, which of course is part of the DoD.

The author doesn't have to worry about his career in the US army or worry about the internal politics of what he is saying.

 

[oi2002]

Did you guys see 30Min on C4 at 7.30 tonight.

British general said he would have resigned his commision if he had been ordered to invade Iraq. Strong stuff.

The spineless fuckers are starting to moan now. Let's start talking about dereliction of duty. That no senior British or American officers resigned is rather reminiscent of Admiral Tojo who knew Pearl harbour was suicidal folly but cravenly seved the Emporer. Deluded politicians can be expected to sport shag their countries on a whim but soldiers are meant to be made of better metal.

The Yanks may have been deluded. The British Military were not. They knew what they were getting into and that the only plan was to stay glued to DC arse.

 

[nino_savatte]

Military Review is a U.S. Army publication, which of course is part of the DoD.

Do you read The Stars and Stripes too, yammie?

 

[nick1181]

selectively 'cherry-picking' isn't 'misquoting' and the media (all of 'em) and politicians (all) and campaigners (all) do it all the time.

It may not be misquoting per se, but can still be misleading and sometimes deliberatetly so. Context and all that.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Do you read The Stars and Stripes too, yammie?

Or he has it read to him with all the bits that challeng him removed. Things like a list of countries 'liberated' by the USA.

I"m not going to let this lying freeper coward get away with this I really am not.

 

[nino_savatte]

Or he has it read to him with all the bits that challeng him removed. Things like a list of countries 'liberated' by the USA.

I"m not going to let this lying freeper coward get away with this I really am not.

I'm going to have a look at FreakRepublic to see what our pal, rogue spam is up to.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

I'm going to have a look at FreakRepublic to see what our pal, rogue spam is up to.

Some of his politically challenged pals are sayint tht 'we kicked limey butt twice in 1812 and 1814 if tey need ahat trick we can supply it' Strange I seem to recall that the Brits with Canadian allies burned down the White House in 1812 although unlike Rogue Spam I"m quite willing to lose face if I hve to be corrected.

Oi Rogue Spam wheere arrrrree yooooou. Come out to play.

 

[nino_savatte]

Some of his politically challenged pals are sayint tht 'we kicked limey butt twice in 1812 and 1814 if tey need ahat trick we can supply it' Strange I seem to recall that the Brits with Canadian allies burned down the White House in 1812 although unlike Rogue Spam I"m quite willing to lose face if I hve to be corrected.

Oi Rogue Spam wheere arrrrree yooooou. Come out to play.

Didn't that war end inconclusively and didn't Britain and the US have to sign some treaty in Paris? The reasons for the war are rarely given and when it is discussed by Yanks, they will use it as an occasion to talk up their patriotism...that and the fact that the national anthem was allegedly written during a battle in some harbour (can't remember which one).

 

[ViolentPanda]

Some of his politically challenged pals are sayint tht 'we kicked limey butt twice in 1812 and 1814 if tey need ahat trick we can supply it' Strange I seem to recall that the Brits with Canadian allies burned down the White House in 1812 although unlike Rogue Spam I"m quite willing to lose face if I hve to be corrected.

Do you know what I love about the burning of the White House?

It was down to Admiral Sir George Cockburn, a man who gave freedom to slaves for assisting him in his guerrilla endeavours, including the sacking of Washington DC, and who was also the venerable and venerated ancestor of CPGB member, screenwriter and radical journalist Claud Cockburn, and of Claud's son Alexander Cockburn, another fine and well-loved "left" journalist.
I particularly like the fact that Cockburn and his raiding party indulged themselves by eating a meal that president Madison and his retinue had abandoned in the White House dining room in their haste to flee from the (small) British party.

Seems like pissing off the US runs in that fine Irish family's blood!

Oh, and it was august 1814, not 1812, mate.

 

[rogue yam]

Seems like pissing off the US runs in that fine Irish family's blood!

Ya, sure. Alex Cockburn hates America so much he lives in California.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Ya, sure. Alex Cockburn hates America so much he lives in California.

Where is the facts that you set so much store on going to arrive RY?

(VP I stand corrected over the 1814 rather than 1812 -- thanks)

See RY if I can be corrected and take it with good grace - why can't you at least give us the information that we have asked for and if you are wrong then you can take it like a man as well. Don't be scared RY. At least on here if you are corrected on something people don't take it personally.

It's not the fact that you appear to be as scared as Madison but the fact that you are lying and obfusticating about the matter.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Ya, sure. Alex Cockburn hates America so much he lives in California.

Are you deliberately being ignorant or were you born stupid?

I said he likes pissing you off, not that he hates you.

 

[nino_savatte]

Ya, sure. Alex Cockburn hates America so much he lives in California.

Last time I checked, California was a state of the union.

 

[rogue yam]

Last time I checked, California was a state of the union.

Oh boy.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Oh boy.

RY you live in San Francisco don't you -- do you consider California to be a state in the union?

Hows the power supply btw there still being fucked over by the private power companies?

BTW your prescence is requested on the Iran / Blair thread.

 

[nino_savatte]

Oh boy.

It seems to me that either you don't know your own geography or you are playing the same stupid game that most of your braindead ilk play. I'll go for the latter.

Looking forward to the next civil war, yammie?

 

[Streathamite]

It may not be misquoting per se, but can still be misleading and sometimes deliberatetly so. Context and all that.

yup but teeJay said 'misquoting'. the Grauniad's reportage here strikes me as fair enough; all media 'cherry-pick' - they publish for the general public.