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T & P

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Police has cut off the eastbound traffic on Thurlow Park Rd from the Norwood Rd junction. Does anyone know what’s happened? I hope it’s a lorry stuck under the bridge rather than a serious accident/ fatality...
 

colacubes

Well-Known Member
Police has cut off the eastbound traffic on Thurlow Park Rd from the Norwood Rd junction. Does anyone know what’s happened? I hope it’s a lorry stuck under the bridge rather than a serious accident/ fatality...
Just seen a post on Facebook that suggests it’s a lorry driver who ignored the signs again.
 

T & P

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Just seen a post on Facebook that suggests it’s a lorry driver who ignored the signs again.
Oh well, the least bad of reasons for the big traffic jam.

I think such incidents are at least a bit less frequent than they were, say, a few years ago. Which should be the case given the increasing number of electronic warnings signs, and the massive banner that now adorns the bridge.
 

Crispy

The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Police has cut off the eastbound traffic on Thurlow Park Rd from the Norwood Rd junction. Does anyone know what’s happened? I hope it’s a lorry stuck under the bridge rather than a serious accident/ fatality...
Nope, motorbike vs. car accident. I came out of the back door of the station shortly after it happened. Looked like (judging by location of dent in car and debris on road) a car turning right out of avenue park road, across path of motorbike. Ambulance on scene, stretcher, neck brace, 3x cop cars.
 

T & P

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Nope, motorbike vs. car accident. I came out of the back door of the station shortly after it happened. Looked like (judging by location of dent in car and debris on road) a car turning right out of avenue park road, across path of motorbike. Ambulance on scene, stretcher, neck brace, 3x cop cars.
Bugger. At least it doesn’t sound as if it was fatal, at this stage at least.
 

T & P

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Old Creative Aroma coffee shop currently being fitted out as an ‘Urban Spa’.


https://www.emmawilsonurbanspa.co.uk
I was wondering what the new business was going to be when I noticed there was refitting work taking place.

I cannot imagine it’s longer possible to make a profit from selling coffees and cakes (or most low value everyday wares) anywhere in London- not in a shop as small as that anyway- unless the landlord has the decency to keep the rent low. I often wonder how the little convenience shop between the ex-Ford dealership and the Thai place could possibly make a profit unless the rent is at 1940s prices.
 

Smick

Strictly Second Class
When did the Railway stop doing fireworks on the 5th Nov? It was always a nice one to bring the kids down to.
 

GarveyLives

Well-Known Member
The child murdered at Grenleaf Close, Tulse Hill Estate, on Monday 5 November 2018 has now been formally identified as John Ogunjobi, 16, of Tulse Hill (despite earlier reports that he did not live in the local area).

A post-mortem examination held earlier today at Greenwich Mortuary gave cause of death as a stab wound. Enquiries are ongoing to establish whether a firearm was discharged.

An investigation is underway by detectives from the Homicide and Major Crime Command, led by Detective Chief Inspector Richard Vandenbergh.

Media speculation continues as to whether this child was or was not involved in a "gang" or 'drill' "music", or merely an organist. In any event, a relative told the Evening Standard: “He was retaking his GCSEs and was planning to go into engineering. He wanted to do an apprenticeship course.” The child's friends said he had previously played football for local team St Matthew’s FC and went to school in West Norwood.



The Late John Ogunjobi

Officers are also appealing to anyone who may have captured footage or images of the incident on their mobile phone to get in contact. No arrests have been made to date.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the incident room on 020 8721 4961 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

You can also tweet information to @MetCC.
Condolences to all those who were, and continue to be, affected by the murder of John Ogunjobi (also known as JaySav) on Tulse Hill Estate exactly one year ago. It would appear that the the Metropolitan Police have a number of 'prime suspects' for the murder of this child, but insuffcient evidence with which to charge anyone, despite the offer of a reward of up to £20,000 for information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the person or people responsible for the murder.

Officers have released CCTV footage of a black Audi Q5 vehicle, registration number LB11 XPJ (False plates) and a light coloured VW 5-door Polo, with damage to the corner of its offside rear bumper. The two cars were seen shortly before and after the stabbing at around 10.50 p.m. on Monday 5 November 2018. They are asking anyone who may have seen these cars in or around the Tulse Hill area at the time of the incident to come forward and speak to them.

Earlier at 10.41 p.m. that night, the black Audi was captured on CCTV at Texaco petrol station in Croxted Road, Dulwich, having come from the direction of West Dulwich. A man wearing a long green puffa coat and purple latex gloves was seen to fill the car with petrol. False plates have been used on the car. It was then seen leaving the garage at 10.43 p.m., heading in the direction of Norwood Road.

On Tuesday 6 November 2018, the black Audi Q5 was found to have been burnt out on the Gunsite Allotments, Grange Lane, Dulwich. Checks revealed that this vehicle, under the correct registration number, had been stolen from Burbage Road on 12 October 2018.



(Source: as stated)

Anyone with information is asked to contact the incident room on 020 8721 4961 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

You can also tweet information to @MetCC
 

T & P

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The council/ utility company have screwed up the current layout and number of active roadworks spots in the area. The southbound fork partition at the TH junction for either Norwood Rd or the South Circular keeps causing traffic to block each other so it takes everyone ages to clear the junction.

And just up the road the northbound and southbound traffic on Norwood Rd by the pharmacy are failing to clear the roadworks section in time before the temporary traffic lights change, and block each other.

The whole area is a mess at the moment, and not just for drivers. The pollution level must have spiked up massively.

And just how long it is going to take them to reopen the Palace Rd turning ffs?
 

gaijingirl

Well-Known Member
And just how long it is going to take them to reopen the Palace Rd turning ffs?
That was initially supposed to be closed for 6 weeks. That was what was said in the letter to residents. There has been no further reference to this or explanation as to why it's still closed. It's obvious why it's still closed - it's not that work is being done there, it's where all the machinery is stored.

Mostly it doesn't bother me as we cycle everywhere but gaijinboy has just had an operation and will not be able to cycle for about 6 weeks and currently he can't walk at all beyond a few steps with crutches so yesterday I had to drive him somewhere. Bloody hell. I'm glad I don't have to do that very often! :eek:

The pollution must be insanely bad.
 
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Smick

Strictly Second Class
That traffic light camera at the Norwood Road / SCR junction must be flashing like a disco light. When the works aren’t on, I’ve sat in the TH hotel and been surprised by the number of people caught out. But if themes are getting frayed with delays, more people will take the chance.
 

gaijingirl

Well-Known Member
A few things from the NAG newsletter and other places:

Plans to build a massive 7-storey block of flats on the old car wash/tyre etc place opposite the Tulse Hill Hotel (N.E. corner). Lovely big panoramic windows up the top there to take in the full glory of the South Circular and Tulse Hill gyratory.

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The White Hart application to reopen as a pub with flats above was turned-down by Lambeth, reasons not yet available.

and I particularly liked this: "Local Bonzo Boys get their name back
The Bonzo's were formed in a flat at 162c Rosendale Road on 25th September 1962. Viv Stanshall, Rodney Slater and Tom Parkinson were part of the original line-up. Neil Innes joined later. At some expense they have just won the rights back to use their original name: The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band."

oh and West Norwood really but the bogs next to Tesco will be a bar called The Waterworks.

oh also the lovely Hillside Gardens is having its AGM on 25 November to discuss new plans for the playground and turning the building into a cafe/community hub.
 
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T & P

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That was initially supposed to be closed for 6 weeks. That was what was said in the letter to residents. There has been no further reference to this or explanation as to why it's still closed. It's obviously why it's still closed - it's not that work is being done there, it's where all the machinery is stored.

Mostly it doesn't bother me as we cycle everywhere but gaijinboy has just had an operation and will not be able to cycle for about 6 weeks and currently he can't walk at all beyond a few steps with crutches so yesterday I had to drive him somewhere. Bloody hell. I'm glad I don't have to do that very often! :eek:

The pollution must be insanely bad.
I was pleasantly surprised to see crews working yesterday, on a Sunday. I’m sure that isn’t the norm but suspect there must have been so many complaints about the nearly-permanent state of gridlock, the council has told the company doing the works to get their finger out and finish the current set of works pronto.
 

editor

hiraethified
A few things from the NAG newsletter and other places:

Plans to build a massive 7-storey block of flats on the old car wash/tyre etc place opposite the Tulse Hill Hotel (N.E. corner). Lovely big panoramic windows up the top there to take in the full glory of the South Circular and Tulse Hill gyratory.

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That block is totally out of scale with the area. And ugly as fuck too.
 

nick

Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
I take it the roadworks will be finished by the time that block goes up - They seem to have left the traffic jam out of the graphic
 
I think it looks pretty good. Probably a bunch of 'luxury flats' obviously which is annoying, but let's face it, what's there right now is a real eyesore. And apart from a car wash, it's been desolate for a long time.

I'm sure people that don't actually live here will be along soon to tell us that it is totally out of proportion and ugly as hell, but it's a whole load better than what's there currently.
 

gaijingirl

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I think it's waaaay too big. Also I read the comments on the council website from people who seem to know about these things (I'm off work sick ok!! :mad::D) - I think 21 objections and 1 supporting comment. Many of the objections brought up practical things which I wouldn't have even considered but on reading make a lot of sense - so I imagine they will have to make some changes.

Most everyone agreed that something needs to be done with that corner though and said they would be happy to support the application if some changes were made.
 

editor

hiraethified
I think it's waaaay too big. Also I read the comments on the council website from people who seem to know about these things (I'm off work sick ok!! :mad::D) - I think 21 objections and 1 supporting comment. Many of the objections brought up practical things which I wouldn't have even considered but on reading make a lot of sense - so I imagine they will have to make some changes.
Can you post up the planning page, please?
 
I think it's waaaay too big. Also I read the comments on the council website from people who seem to know about these things (I'm off work sick ok!! :mad::D) - I think 21 objections and 1 supporting comment. Many of the objections brought up practical things which I wouldn't have even considered but on reading make a lot of sense - so I imagine they will have to make some changes.

Most everyone agreed that something needs to be done with that corner though and said they would be happy to support the application if some changes were made.
Mebbe if they shaved the top floor off..
 

editor

hiraethified
Nicely put:
Its hard to understand how a design such as this can be given such serious consideration given it's excessive dimensions which are totally out of keeping with the surrounding buildings and the area.
Yet another attempt to destroy the Victorian heritage of Tulse Hill and replace it with tiny unit flats of bad quality and ugly design.
I can't imagine who would willingly live in this block given that it butts right up against the pavement edge and therefore greatly exposing it's residents to traffic noise and pollution.
 
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