Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Yes...and, your point?
Tuc votes for boycott, sanctions & divestment against israel
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Yes...and, your point?
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Well done brothers. Put the boot in on the only democracy in the Middle East.
Wanker!
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Heinous insults indeedI'm wounded
You're all soooo fucking crewellll!
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
I remember the olden days when the TUC conference used to be on the telly.
The TUC is on the telly, right now, and with thirty-four-and-a-half hours of continued recorded highlights from midnight.
I can see Bob Crow right now in my very own living room. He's got a surprisingly high-pitched voice.
the button
out on the kocker
Not if you've only got the five terrestrial channels, it isn't.
It used to be on BBC2, IIRC.Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
Not if you've only got the five terrestrial channels, it isn't.
Well I can't help it if people aren't geared up for the space age we find ourselves living in. Blinking luddites!
the button
out on the kocker
Well I can't help it if people aren't geared up for the space age we find ourselves living in. Blinking luddites!
They should put it on Channel 5 instead of that fucking "Quiz Call" shit -- the number of times that's woken me up when I've dropped off on the settee in front of Law & Order. Bastards!
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
That the Labour Party is influenced by funding, and that a substantial part of their funding comes from the Trade Union movement which the TUC largely represents. The largest and most influential members of the TUC in aggregate contribute the majority of political funding to the Labour Party. The TUC are in a position to directly influence Labour Party policies and they don't seem to overtly use that negotiating power except in the most tangential manner (although what they do covertly may be another issue).
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Well I can't help it if people aren't geared up for the space age we find ourselves living in. Blinking luddites!
Don't diss the Luddites man!
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
Well done brothers. Put the boot in on the only democracy in the Middle East.
Well it's not really a boot, more setting up a committee to consider drafting a leaflet. They're having no truck with the real extremists who want to cut off links with the Israeli TUC for deploring the bombing of their own country, and it's perfectly fair to criticise the government of Israel for condoning and supporting the settlements which I think you will admit are illegal. And they're not saying anything about the UK's purchasing of military communications equipment from Israel.
What it does show is the the TUC aren't putting up with the extremists that tried to get the university teachers to cut off academic contacts with universities in Israel, and that is rather heartening.
Of course nobody has suggested that the TUC and its member organisations put any pressure on other governments that oppress people and occupy other people's countries. And I'm perfectly sure that there won't be any criticism of Cuba or Venezuela, and their refreshingly simple approaches to labour relations! Not a peep about Russia which walked in to Georgia, or Iran with respect to the collective punishments administered to its indigenous Ahwazi Arabs, or Sudan, or China, or Morocco, or.... well you get the picture.
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out on the kocker
Especially since -- as EP Thompson notes -- the luddites' machine-breaking was carefully targetting at particular bits of technology that they saw taking their jobs away. Rather than just going at it like an anarchist with a Starbuck's window.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
going at it like an anarchist with a Starbuck's window.
Chalk that one up button, best euphemism i've heard in years.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Especially since -- as EP Thompson notes -- the luddites' machine-breaking was carefully targetting at particular bits of technology that they saw taking their jobs away. Rather than just going at it like an anarchist with a Starbuck's window.
Well zactly but I do worry that the good doctor will seize on that EP Thompson reference and show himself again in another guise
Well done brothers. Put the boot in on the only democracy in the Middle East.
is waging war on defenceless civilians democratic?
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Defenceless citizens, all around the world. The TUC will sort it out!!!! But who do they choose first?
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out on the kocker
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
It's up to the standing orders committee.
Argh
Could you just spell out what you mean button, cos I guess many people reading haven't got a clue.
Fucking bureaucracy, it's worse in the TU movement (and anarchists!) than in the corporate world. Round and round in meetings fucking meetings and never actually doing anything.
Spion
I hear ya
It's a big issue. People feel strongly about it. Do you read the news? The Is/Pal issue and the WB settlements was one of the first things the Obama presidency dealt with, or were they misguided too?
as if it wouldn't be! sorry it is daft .. sort out this country first
Well done brothers. Put the boot in on the only democracy in the Middle East.
Ah the old "The only democracy in the Middle East" gambit again. There isn't much democracy for Palestinians in the occupied territories.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Stop being silly. PCS put motions on the public sector, cuts in public sector workers compo, attacks on our jobs and can also support motions that affect workers elsewhere. This was 1 motion in a week of motions.
Just because you seem to have problems walking and chewing gum at the same time doesn't mean others do.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I doubt that people facing redundancy and benefits cuts prioritise it tbh.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
It wasn't prioritised over jobs, cuts in the public sector, health and safety, attacks on T&C's. It came after those resolutions.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
But that's what it looks like.
Why say anything about international issues at all when it's clearly obvious that the press will pick up on that to divert attention from home matters?
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
What it looks like and the reality are two different things. The agenda is set by the TUC not the Sun etc What you are saying is effectively to call for the TUC and trades unions pander to a hostile press. You're saying ignore things that don't take place within out borders.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
I've been watching the highlights (on now, only 15 minutes left), and the entire conference has been dominated by domestic issues.
Right now, they're talking about Vestas, jobs in renewables and poverty of UK committment to environmental and renewable energy needs.
Right now, they're talking about Vestas, jobs in renewables and poverty of UK committment to environmental and renewable energy needs.
Spion
I hear ya
Where does it look like this? In what press is this motion achieving such prominence?
I'm listening to the TUC conf right now, and while there was some coverage earlier, it's all been about contracts, the Post Office, redundancies, Vestas
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