editor said:
He is a fucking child !
Trouble at the Country Show?
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He is a fucking child !
editor said:
Daily Mail ?
editor said:
Calling this child a cunt and hoping he gets a nice long stretch,thats not controversial ?
editor said:
What ?
So who's in favour of putting him in an orange boiler suit and getting him to pick up rubbish and repair benches in Brockwell Park for a year or two?
He can also go and visit gun victims in hospital every month and do other socially useful stuff like help old grannies with their shopping.
Ironically while some people might see this as a punishment other people actually volunteer to do stuff like this out of pure idealism. In fact maybe they could do it side by side and instead of learning, between now and age 18, how to make knives out of table legs he might instead find some kind of worthwhile purpose or aim in life.
He can also go and visit gun victims in hospital every month and do other socially useful stuff like help old grannies with their shopping.
Ironically while some people might see this as a punishment other people actually volunteer to do stuff like this out of pure idealism. In fact maybe they could do it side by side and instead of learning, between now and age 18, how to make knives out of table legs he might instead find some kind of worthwhile purpose or aim in life.
We've all seen how the media are happy to label even Brixton squirrels as bloodshot-eyed crackheads - so I wouldn't really put a lot of faith it the accuracy of the "swaggering" bit.
If someone does get into drug dealing (and as someone who uses illegal drugs I don't want to start being holier-than-thou) then maybe having a gun is seen as rational 'self-protection' simply because they see other people get shot over disputes over money, getting robbed by other dealers, or over who runs which area.
Is there any evidence that he ever robbed people at gun point?
If someone does get into drug dealing (and as someone who uses illegal drugs I don't want to start being holier-than-thou) then maybe having a gun is seen as rational 'self-protection' simply because they see other people get shot over disputes over money, getting robbed by other dealers, or over who runs which area.
Is there any evidence that he ever robbed people at gun point?
OK fair enough.editor said:
By the way, what do you think of my suggestion:
"So who's in favour of putting him in an orange boiler suit and getting him to pick up rubbish and repair benches in Brockwell Park for a year or two?
He can also go and visit gun victims in hospital every month and do other socially useful stuff like help old grannies with their shopping."
editor said:
He is a child,14 years old at the time of the offence.
Then he probably has a lot of issues that he needs to work through - it would probably indicate that he is a bit disturbed within himself.editor said:
Do you think he would laugh in their face? Maybe at first he would go in there sullenly and affect disinterest. He might be tempted to have a look at the injuries (most people would wouldn't they?) and ask some questions (eg did it hurt? etc). Maybe at first he would not give a shit and just be acting tough, but it's likely that over time it might well sober him up, make him think about things more deeply, have emotions and feelings which maybe he has previously suppressed. Maybe he would be getting some attention that he hasn't got before? Maybe he would end up doing worthshile things that he enjoyed rather than seeing the whole world as shit and not caring if he lived or died?
I am starting on the assumption that he is a human being, not some kind of psychopath that is beyond help and can only be locked away forever.
editor
hiraethified
I can't even begin to get inside the head of someone who decides to take a loaded gun to a family event full of children.TeeJay said:
What I do know however, is that if he's back out on the streets with his mates within the year, he's hardly going to discourage others from following the same terrible path as him.
The Country Show also has other people who aren't as fluffy. I don't know what he was doing but maybe he thought it offered him 'protection' if someone else pulled a knife or gun on him? If he was dealing drugs and only 14 then maybe he was scared of being beaten to a pulp and this made him a 'big man'?editor said:
I don't see how either prison or being back on the streets would benefit him, and therefore in the long run anyone else either.
I would hope that there would be a lot of effort put into sorting him out - emotionally, psychologically, educationally and so forth. It will save everyone far more grief in the long run, regardless of any punitive aspects of it or what he "deserves".
editor said:
editor
hiraethified
Nah. There is no excuse whatsoever for anyone, of any age, to be walking around a crowded family event with a loaded gun. None.TeeJay said:
I agree. But on the other hand, he can't be seen back on the streets just 12 months later, sending out a message that even if you do walk around with a gun and peddle smack you'll be back hanging with your mates in no time at all.TeeJay said:
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If this young man isn't dealt with properly, it's obvious where he's heading, and it's quite likely to be an early death.
Some course of action like Teejay suggests, rigorously implemented, has to be the only real way forward. The trouble is, this is proberbly going to take much more effort, time and money than slinging him in prison.
It's a tragedy really.
Some course of action like Teejay suggests, rigorously implemented, has to be the only real way forward. The trouble is, this is proberbly going to take much more effort, time and money than slinging him in prison.
It's a tragedy really.
