Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

Discussion in 'New York/US' started by slish66, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. ruffneck23

    ruffneck23 front left

    i just thought it would be nice to change it up a bit from the last 69 pages of the same old shit, I may also add, that somewhere back in the thread , I got into the US by just ticking no to eveything , after the convictions, however , in a Trump world , you are probably right :)
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  2. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    You can’t tick NO if you want a visa, it’s a totally different process, nothing to do with a Trump!
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  3. ruffneck23

    ruffneck23 front left

  4. estahelp

    estahelp New Member

    Hi everyone,

    Have read so many pages of this very very useful thread.

    I have a question if anyone can help me with it.

    Was arrested and cautioned at a police station in 2009 (fingerprints and photos taken), had a small amount of cannabis on me. Do not remember getting any paper or etc after being cautioned.

    I am a dual national british citizen.

    Should i apply for esta and say no to all the questions?

    No plans to apply for a work or etc visa for the states.

    thank you in advance, all.
  5. existentialist

    existentialist Girly swot

    Read more pages of this very very useful thread.
  6. estahelp

    estahelp New Member

    gone through all pages. no case of dual national... can you please point me towards it :)
  7. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    If you are planning to use your British passport then the advice is the same
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  8. estahelp

    estahelp New Member

    thank you :)

    the esta form also asks for the dual nationality section. should mentioned the other nationality there and just proceed as normal?

    i come from an asian background. i hope they do not stop me in their so called random checks :mad:
  9. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

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  10. existentialist

    existentialist Girly swot

    Top tips.

    Don't lie on any question where the documentation you are carrying will grass you up.
    Don't answer any question they haven't actually asked.
    These people are not your friends - friendly conversation is just one of the ways they do their job.
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  11. estahelp

    estahelp New Member

    will it still be ok if the background is

    pakistani - muslim?

    if selecting no will get the esta, i am going to do it now and report back.
    travel probably in 1-2 months.

    what if esta comes no and i have to apply for visa? am i busted then?
  12. existentialist

    existentialist Girly swot

    These aren't questions a bunch of people on a bulletin board can answer. Your caution isn't going to show up on their paperwork in the normal run of things, but nobody is in a position to account for the mindset of the US's border people, I'm afraid.
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  13. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    maybe researchers who study abnormal psychology
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  14. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I’m no expert but my inclination is to just declare it. While it seems apparent that criminal record declarations are mostly unnecessary I have no evidence on how much data they hold on dual nationalities and even if that is a decisive factor in granting ESTAs.

    I’d be interested to know what happens though when you apply.
  15. estahelp

    estahelp New Member

    apologies i did not get the answer.

    do you mean i declare my dual nationality? and apply for esta by saying no to the arrest and drug caution thing?

    thanks for the reply :)
  16. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I think declaring anything criminal is likely to end up with being denied. Especially concerning drug offences.

    I don't know what the likely outcome of declaring dual nationality is. I'd suggest it depends on the other nationality more than anything.

    Unfortunately I have to leave that decision to you because I really don't know, but I'd be inclined to declare both nationalities.
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  17. Stevie Gould

    Stevie Gould New Member

    Help !!

    Prior to my conviction I had been to USA 5times including New York and Vegas.

    2011 I was sentenced to 8years for conspiracy to supply class A (Cocaine). I served half the time in prison other half on licence which only ended this month November 7th 2019

    So a quick recap: convicted and jailed 2011 released 2014 licence ended 2019.

    Would I be stupid risking a trip away to USA lying about my criminal record ? I’m a family man now and have moved on in life since my one and only mistake a made
    My end goal is a family trip to Disney land Florida.
    My worry is if I go to the embassy they will knock me back for life rather than just risking a trip to New York to see if it works anyways do they deem drugs a serious offence in the USA
  18. blairsh

    blairsh Dickhead

    Im not sure, but I think there is a (fairly comprehensive) thread on this somewhere :hmm:

    Could totally have imagined it though :oops:
  19. yield

    yield zero

  20. blairsh

    blairsh Dickhead

  21. hash tag

    hash tag member

  22. blairsh

    blairsh Dickhead

  23. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Alles hat ein Ende nur eine Wurst hat zwei

    and again

    1) If you declare, you are fucked off from the US for life
    2) if you dont declare, then you (it would seem from anecdotal evidnce on here and elsewhere... ) be quite likely get in. If not, you get a free trip home. and are fucked off from the US for life.
  24. existentialist

    existentialist Girly swot

    You did imagine it. The hundreds of pages of posts prior to the one you are responding to are just an illusion.
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  25. Itsjapatti

    Itsjapatti New Member

    Right lads and ladies, following up from my last two comments, where i expressed my concern and then followed with an update.
    Heres another one for you.

    Flew to LAX today, standard situation with my esta, denied knowledge of my drug conviction, put a false adress, a false job etc. Straight through customs and everything with no issue, only to be stopped before the exit and dragged off into a room.

    Was grilled relentlessly about my visit, my job, my home town, anything you could think to ask, they asked. They took my phone, had a brief scroll through which isnt great considering i get bombarded daily with drug related messages from friends (i did my best to clear out what i could prior to flying ofcourse). Despite turning beetroot red and panicking majorly, stumbling at every answer like your typical bullshitter, i stood by my false information and was let to continue on my way.
    For me, this was a massive indicator that they really are as clueless as we think, and its just a case of pot luck, depending on how theyre feeling at the time and what they can trip you up into saying.

    So, if you're thinking of doing similar or the same, make sure you're prepared to stand by your answers, and hopefully you wont embarrass yourself as much as i did, and you too will find yourself walking out the airport ready for a good holiday.
  26. DickTurpitude

    DickTurpitude New Member

    Ok, slight curve ball on the usual query, I probably know the answer anyway but thought I’d get some opinions. No actual plans to visit the US in the near future but I’m just curious, anyway...

    About 18 years ago I got into a brawl outside a pub, I ended up getting convicted for Assualt, Affray and assaulting a police officer.

    It’s one of those that sounds a lot worse than it actually was, but I appreciate it is what it is on paper. A guy actually mistook me for one of my mates who he’d got into a fight with, the police had been called and he just decided to wander over and wallop me one in front of them. As they went to restrain him I jumped up and made several attempts to hit him, in the process I apparently struck one of the officers. I was advised to plead not guilty, it went to court three times and I eventually got found guilty.

    Anyway my stupid GF at the time insisted I get a visa for a trip to New York we had planned shortly afterwards, against my better judgement I went to the Embassy and got a one year visa granted. We then didn’t even end up going as we split up.

    Fast forward 18 years, I’ve never been to the US.. but you never know, I may want to at some point.

    I really don’t fancy going through all the visa stuff again after so long, I appreciate I’ve given all my details to them in the past, all be it nearly 20 years ago.. my crimes didn’t result in significant damage to property or people, I’d be inclined just to rock up (if I ever decide to go) and take my chances based on the length of time that’s elapsed.

    So impossible as it would be for anyone to possibly know, what do we reckon the chances are of something flagging up regarding my previous visa application and/or my details in general so far down the line? And my chances of blagging my way in if it does get flagged up?
  27. chrism1990

    chrism1990 New Member

    Has anyone been denied entry? There seems to be a lot of people on this thread posting but not following up with how it went.

    I travel in may and will post back with how it went
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  28. chrism1990

    chrism1990 New Member

    Also impressive this thread has been running since 2006,

    Surely it has to be up there with the longest running threads ever?
  29. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I reckon it ranks pretty high on google for a search on the matter, judging by the amount of newb posts.
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