Discussion in 'New York/US' started by slish66, Apr 26, 2006.
Those ones never come back and let us know tho!
Anyone see the daily mail with the family being refused entry to the US? How family's dream £4,500 Florida trip became a 'holiday from hell' | Daily Mail Online
Any country with such arbitrary and unaccountable ways of dealing with potential guests doesn't deserve to have a tourist industry, in my book.
I worked for brief periods in the States in the late 90s, and loved the country, and the people. But I would simply not want now to visit a place which reserves the right to treat visitors the way the US does.
The 64,000 dollar questions is how did they know and has something changed ? They had been going every year for the last 10 without problem.
Can’t see any clear explanation in any versions of the stories.
Two possibilities: EITHER maybe one of the party coughed to the arrest in response to a direct question at the border (they ask such on the off chance you are half asleep and/or to see if they get conflicting responses from folks in the same group). OR the local authorities had other information - perhaps they were even the original source of the list of names/addresses/financial details of suspected money launderers in the first place (rather than arrest/conviction data being shared back from the UK in more recent years).
Irrespective, one wouldn’t be surprised if they build a trawling database of potentially suspect persons (they build a no-fly list after all) and perhaps aren’t under the same data regulation pressures to bother purging it regularly. One could imagine it also being populated with many otherwise innocent details (the 1999 Landslide case comes to mind). If there’s a namespace clash doubtless they get the thumbscrews out on innocents (similar has certainly prevented people from even flying before).
I doubt it was one of the party coughing up and if so then the border force have new data that they didn't seem to have or use have during the past ten years.
So I’m going to America with my mate, and he applied for an ESTA and done the usual no to everything, then a couple of weeks later he panicked and has ticked yes to the convictions one, would he be able to apply again in 10 days and his previous ESTA be wiped? Or will he now have to apply for a visa?
He doesn’t deserve to live
If the TSA go searching (as mentioned before) on the off chance then they can get you no probs. Especially if you're coming from a country that has big ties and speaks the same language. You just have to be lucky everytime, they have to be lucky once.
Or you don’t get yer holiday in the US.
The stakes couldn’t be higher.
What a load of cornflakes. Good luck with anything.
Are you sure you have read the whole thread?
Start at the beginning & you will find your answer. Or if not fuck to somewhere else that charges for visa shit,.
It's a bit strong asking someone to read 2000 posts
You don't have to start at the beginning - the last 10 pages will do it. Though I think our constituency is starting to become more educated, so that might have to go to 20 pages soon
He's going to have to assume he's fucked himself. He's given them information, and none of us can know if that information will be kept or not. In his shoes, I'd divide my time between hitting myself in the face with the Giraffe of Correction, and considering making a formal visa application, assuming that the convictions are minor enough to present a problem there. If they aren't, then you're probably better off going to the States with a different mate.
The woman who accidentally ticked: 'I am a terrorist' - The woman who ticked: 'I am a terrorist'
There will be more to this story than meets the eye, i don't think they are letting on.
Hi That’s what I think too, for all 3 to be picked out of the line and asked to go into a room then all 3 deported!!!!! I go with my little ones in 2 weeks and I’m actually having a breakdown as I have a conviction and worried that laws have changed in last few weeks.
Has anyone been recently with a conviction?
Maybe a re-think on your plans, either way good luck.
Yeah those 3 from the Mail article.
No....they were apparently not convicted.
So this proves what?
It depends what your conviction is for. If it wasn't drug related or caused "serious damage to property or serious harm to another person or government department", you can answer "no" with a clear conscience.
Fuck knows but they weren't convicted - according to the article.
More to it than meets the eye as has already been said.
But those people weren't even convicted and were refused entry. Wouldn't any conviction, no matter the seriousness, result in the same outcome?
I have no idea! The question was asked if anyone has been with a conviction and you said "those 3". That's all.
Yes, me, last month.
So has anyone heard of any new laws brought in that apparently the woman in the mail was told
You win..... Fuck knows as you say.
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