Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

Discussion in 'New York/US' started by slish66, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Those ones never come back and let us know tho!
     
  2. Frank397

    Frank397 New Member

  3. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    Any country with such arbitrary and unaccountable ways of dealing with potential guests doesn't deserve to have a tourist industry, in my book.

    I worked for brief periods in the States in the late 90s, and loved the country, and the people. But I would simply not want now to visit a place which reserves the right to treat visitors the way the US does.
     
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  4. phillm

    phillm Trolling through Life (TM)

    The 64,000 dollar questions is how did they know and has something changed ? They had been going every year for the last 10 without problem.
     
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  5. 2hats

    2hats

    Can’t see any clear explanation in any versions of the stories.

    Two possibilities: EITHER maybe one of the party coughed to the arrest in response to a direct question at the border (they ask such on the off chance you are half asleep and/or to see if they get conflicting responses from folks in the same group). OR the local authorities had other information - perhaps they were even the original source of the list of names/addresses/financial details of suspected money launderers in the first place (rather than arrest/conviction data being shared back from the UK in more recent years).

    Irrespective, one wouldn’t be surprised if they build a trawling database of potentially suspect persons (they build a no-fly list after all) and perhaps aren’t under the same data regulation pressures to bother purging it regularly. One could imagine it also being populated with many otherwise innocent details (the 1999 Landslide case comes to mind). If there’s a namespace clash doubtless they get the thumbscrews out on innocents (similar has certainly prevented people from even flying before).
     
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  6. phillm

    phillm Trolling through Life (TM)

    I doubt it was one of the party coughing up and if so then the border force have new data that they didn't seem to have or use have during the past ten years.
     
  7. Frank397

    Frank397 New Member

    So I’m going to America with my mate, and he applied for an ESTA and done the usual no to everything, then a couple of weeks later he panicked and has ticked yes to the convictions one, would he be able to apply again in 10 days and his previous ESTA be wiped? Or will he now have to apply for a visa?
     
  8. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    He doesn’t deserve to live
     
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  9. Jay Park

    Jay Park quasihobo

    If the TSA go searching (as mentioned before) on the off chance then they can get you no probs. Especially if you're coming from a country that has big ties and speaks the same language. You just have to be lucky everytime, they have to be lucky once.
     
  10. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Or you don’t get yer holiday in the US.

    The stakes couldn’t be higher.
     
  11. MrSki

    MrSki Who am I to say you're wrong

    What a load of cornflakes. Good luck with anything. :thumbs:
     
  12. MrSki

    MrSki Who am I to say you're wrong

    Are you sure you have read the whole thread?

    Start at the beginning & you will find your answer. Or if not fuck to somewhere else that charges for visa shit,.
     
  13. joustmaster

    joustmaster offcumdun

    It's a bit strong asking someone to read 2000 posts
     
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  14. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    You don't have to start at the beginning - the last 10 pages will do it. Though I think our constituency is starting to become more educated, so that might have to go to 20 pages soon :)
     
  15. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    He's going to have to assume he's fucked himself. He's given them information, and none of us can know if that information will be kept or not. In his shoes, I'd divide my time between hitting myself in the face with the Giraffe of Correction, and considering making a formal visa application, assuming that the convictions are minor enough to present a problem there. If they aren't, then you're probably better off going to the States with a different mate.
     
  16. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

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  17. Charlie Manson

    Charlie Manson New Member

  18. Eve Gibson

    Eve Gibson Member

    Hi That’s what I think too, for all 3 to be picked out of the line and asked to go into a room then all 3 deported!!!!! I go with my little ones in 2 weeks and I’m actually having a breakdown as I have a conviction and worried that laws have changed in last few weeks.
     
  19. Eve Gibson

    Eve Gibson Member

    Has anyone been recently with a conviction?
     
  20. Jay Park

    Jay Park quasihobo

    Maybe a re-think on your plans, either way good luck.
     
  21. Jay Park

    Jay Park quasihobo

    Yeah those 3 from the Mail article.
     
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  22. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    No....they were apparently not convicted.
     
  23. Jay Park

    Jay Park quasihobo

    So this proves what?
     
  24. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    It depends what your conviction is for. If it wasn't drug related or caused "serious damage to property or serious harm to another person or government department", you can answer "no" with a clear conscience.
     
  25. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Fuck knows but they weren't convicted - according to the article.

    More to it than meets the eye as has already been said.
     
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  26. Jay Park

    Jay Park quasihobo

    But those people weren't even convicted and were refused entry. Wouldn't any conviction, no matter the seriousness, result in the same outcome?
     
  27. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    I have no idea! The question was asked if anyone has been with a conviction and you said "those 3". That's all.
     
  28. Charlie Manson

    Charlie Manson New Member

    Yes, me, last month.
     
  29. Eve Gibson

    Eve Gibson Member

    So has anyone heard of any new laws brought in that apparently the woman in the mail was told
     
  30. Jay Park

    Jay Park quasihobo

    You win..... Fuck knows as you say.
     

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