Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

Discussion in 'New York/US' started by slish66, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    thank you, we’ve just been looking into Ireland. We’re booked to go from Manchester, but if he’s asked he’s going to say we don’t know about it and he’s travelling out there to meet us and surprise us. Read a lot of good things about going from Dublin and like you said a lot said they’re loads nicer too. Thanks
     
  2. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Why isn't he flying with you?
     
  3. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    I’m worried that he will go all the way over there and get turned back then the kids will be upset seeing their dad turned away,
    Thinking that if he flys from dublin it’s not as far to come back to England and can tell the kids he’s going somewhere else whilst we go to Florida.
     
  4. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Do you think he’s best off flying with us? There’s 11 of us going and staying in Disney for 2 weeks?
     
  5. trashpony

    trashpony Ovaries and tings

    You should all go together. It looks dodgy and weird if he goes separately
     
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  6. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Ok, he was just going to say that he couldn’t get the time off work and they let him put in last minute holidays but he didn’t tell us... wish I was flying from Dublin now, sounds so much easier too to be fair.
     
  7. trashpony

    trashpony Ovaries and tings

    Honestly, don't overcomplicate things by adding in another lie. Go together. You don't need to fly from Dublin :)
     
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  8. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Ok, thank you. I just don’t want our kids being upset if he gets turned away... might just tell them he’s travelling with us but can’t come in lol! Just incase lol :rolleyes:
     
  9. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Has anyone ever heard of anyone being turned away because of a criminal record? Or is it pretty much unheard of?
     
  10. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    It's not about having a really good excuse, it's about doing nothing to arouse any interest in the first place.

    I suspect REALLY dodgy types would give their right arm to be travelling as an obviously connected member of a group of 11,including kids - why make it hard for yourselves?
     
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  11. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    People do get turned away because of a criminal record, but usually because they've been dumb enough to dob themselves in.
     
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  12. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Yeh your 100% right, there’s 4 children, a old lady of 74 as well so hoping they won’t even question us too much, we will all be wearing very pathetic matching Disney tshirts too.. lol thank you for your advice we wil Just all go together and hope for the best
     
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  13. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    And it probably goes without saying that as few of the party as possible should be aware that there is a possibility of a problem, or even that your OH has previous. What they don't know can't be written all over their happy, innocent little faces.
     
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  14. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Great idea, don't draw attention to yourself and it'll be far less likely that you get tugged at immigration!:facepalm:
     
  15. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Haha if you see the page I’m on on Facebook there’s over 200,00 people that go florida and they all wear mickey ears and marching tshirts so they’re used to it I’m sure lol
     
  16. Jupiter212

    Jupiter212 New Member

    Thanks again everyone
     
  17. jackson

    jackson New Member

    Hi guys, I have read the thread but still not sure on best course of action.



    I have single common assault conviction from about a year ago, which I was given 100 hr community service. I also was deported from America twelve years ago when I was 18 (my family brought me there when I was a child illegally).



    Other than that I have lived in UK with no problems for over ten years and make a good income, have a nice job, etc.



    That obviously rules out ESTA as I am automatically barred since I come up on the deportation DB, even if I were to lie about the conviction.



    So next option is applying for a visa — what are the odds without a lawyer? I’m getting the impression the consensus is thats very unlikely.



    What about if I applied for a visa with a lawyer? anyone have any knowledge of this?



    Finally, lets say I have access to a second passport (visa waiver country) under a different name.



    If I entered over the Canadian border, filled in the I94W (or whatever the visa waiver form is), I would probably be fine right? I understand they fingerprint everyone on entry.



    Do they run it against their DB there and then? If so, that would be triggered by the deportation fingerprints from ten years ago. Or is that more just for their records, and like major terrorist checks or stuff?



    Finally, if they caught me trying to enter with different passport, is there any chance I’d get arrested, or would they just turn me away at the border, and put a lifetime bar on my passport?



    Any help would really be appreciated. I have family in the USA illegally and really want to see them before they die :/
     
  18. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Were you deported twice? You say 12 years ago when you were 18 and also 10 years ago when they took your fingerprints.
     
  19. jackson

    jackson New Member

    No only the once when I was 18. I rounded down the 12 years to 10
     
  20. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Well that's good news, because if you were deported twice it is an automatic 20 year ban. For sure they will have your fingerprints on file and they will check against all reverent databases.
     
  21. jackson

    jackson New Member

    So only realistic shot is probably to apply under my main passport with an immigration lawyer?
     
  22. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    To apply for a B2 visa (tourist visa) you do not need to show a CRO document, but as you have been deported in the past they may well ask for such a document, I think speaking to a lawyer is your best bet.

    Edit because a CRO isn't listed as a required document, you may still be asked to supply one. Also if you have been denied a ESTA they may also ask for one.
     
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  23. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    Lawyers make no difference to whether the accept your application or not. They can advise on the best visa to apply for etc.

    If you can have a passport in a different name, one that is legitimately yours (deed-poll, name change via marriage etc.) they have no way of knowing...
     
  24. 1%er

    1%er Well-Known Member

    Lawyers in most cases will have a better understand of the system so are likely to make less mistakes with forms and process, that's why I'd use one if I were in Jackson's position.

    As for having a passport in a different name, that will be of no help if your fingerprints are on file as they are in jackson's case.
     
  25. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    Yeah, a lawyer won't be be able pull any strings though, just advise on the best course of action.

    Mate of mine was deported for overstaying, had prints taken etc. in 2013, went back last year and the machine at immigration didn't register anything. Just one case, but am not really sure that the immigration machine does anything other than store you prints for use in immigration matters.
     
  26. RainbowTown

    RainbowTown Well-Known Member

    I agree. It's way better to get some legal advice on this beforehand so as to ascertain what the determining factors are. And what alternatives there maybe (if need be).The very last thing Jackson wants is some major and serious hassle if he tries to re-enter. Because he will get it, no question, if things aren't correct. Homeland security in the US is pretty strict, obviously more so since 9/11.
     
  27. bonjovi1972

    bonjovi1972 New Member

    Hi need some advice 19 year ago on new years eve I set fire to my house had too much to drink and fell asleep left oven on I want to go to America for a 2 week holiday with my children I was cautionedfor reckless arson should I get an esta or would I be granted a visa thanks
     
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  28. existentialist

    existentialist Danced on by a twerking bee

    Just as a challenge, read the last 10 pages of the thread, and see if you can guess what the answer might be. I am sure someone will tell you if you've guessed right.
     
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  29. bonjovi1972

    bonjovi1972 New Member

    Esta I think then thanks
     
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  30. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    otherwise you'd be living on a prayer
    and hoping
     
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