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Travelling from the UK to the USA with a criminal record

Discussion in 'New York/US' started by slish66, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Spunky Slug

    British citizen born in the U.K. and lived here all your life, it won't be the lack of ties, it's the DUI I'm afraid. Not much you can do about that now though. Go for an airline that doesn't fly direct to the US, Emirates or such like?
     
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  2. 2hats

    2hats

    Emirates currently fly direct to something like ten destinations in the US.
     
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  3. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Spunky Slug

    Not from the U.K. they don't, only Milan to New York for Europe-US with them.
     
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  4. 2hats

    2hats

    That’s correct. I didn’t state otherwise: they do fly direct to the US.
     
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  5. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Spunky Slug

    I know that, all I meant was a carrier that doesn't fly direct from the UK to the US. Science, inn'it.
     
  6. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    The ACRO.
     
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  7. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    My wife was refused a tourist visa because she didn't have enough ties to the uk (even though she lived in London and was married to a Brit). Apparently being South American, with no kids or job is too sus :rolleyes:
     
  8. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever We have an injured rabbit also

    Its always been the same with the US- probabaly worse now- you really need to load your visa application with as much filler as you can to show you have ties with your home country - mortgage, pets, ongoing university courses- anything to underline that you are not likely to jump ship once you arrive and start working illegally. An exception was The Irish, who usually got an easy ride - but I can imagine that has tightened up significantly of late
     
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  9. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Spunky Slug

    Which you don't have to provide?
     
  10. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    You do if applying for a visa!
     
  11. Cabin crew84

    Cabin crew84 New Member

    Gutted, thank you for your advice
     
  12. Cabin crew84

    Cabin crew84 New Member

    Thank you!
     
  13. Cabin crew84

    Cabin crew84 New Member

    Hi people, so I went for another interview at the US embassy, London yesterday for a DS-160 C1/D visa for a cabin crew job (after going last week but getting refused under section 214, so thought I'd try again with more info) and I got refused again, this time the officer actually explained that I got refused because of my recent DUI conviction (November last year) and nothing to with not being able to show strong ties to U.K. as in Section 214. He suggested to possibly try again end of the year but he didn't seem positive I'd even get it then, just shrugged his shoulders! It's so frustrating, does anyone know how much time I should leave it before I stand a chance of being accepted? They are so vague and don't give you much help at all. I have read that other people have been accepted with a DUI so I don't understand how they judge it, unless it is all about time?
     
  14. wiskey

    wiskey Albatross Admirer

    I would have thought that you should leave it long enough to prove that you aren't stupid enough to drink and drive again. How long that is is... Well how long is a piece of string.

    At least you know now.
     
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  15. Cabin crew84

    Cabin crew84 New Member

    Yes true.
     
  16. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever We have an injured rabbit also

  17. Snockler

    Snockler New Member

    Hi read through most of this string, my case is a little different than what I've read previously
    i,ve been clean for 25 years, but had a spell over 1982-1992 where i committed 6 offences,

    (3 x section 4 public order act using threatening words or behaviour with intent to cause violence) = fined
    (1 X obstructing police) = fined
    (1 x theft of vehicle) = 3 months jail
    (1 x driving with no authority to do so ) = fine

    Mostly football arrests and a theft of a car, i am a totally different person now, but i guess we never see what harm we can do to our futures when were young.

    I see it as no drugs, no actual violence, so i don't fall into moral turpitude.

    British, but grandparent from Yemen (i haven't got a foreign sounding name)

    Believe me i wouldn't go if i didn't have to but i have to travel because of work, due to the nature of my work i have been CRB checked in work 3 times over the years and have never been questioned by my company about my past, but i suspect the people involved in organising my trip an unaware of my past, which is a big company.
    So these are the factors against me, reading the posts it seems a bit risky applying for a visa anyway what do you think about the ESTA
    I am torn between pulling a issue at home so that i don't have to go so i can avoid it altogether.
     
  18. TruXta

    TruXta Prawn Bokers

    ESTA and keep quiet
     
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  19. Dinosaur

    Dinosaur Member

    I got back from the USA last week, for a 2 week business trip - I have a caution for a section 4 offence from 2005, I ticked no to the question asking if I'd ever been arrested or convicted of a serious offence, so it sort of feels like I'm telling the truth,,, but yeah - we all know it's a bit ambiguous, needless to say I got in and out without any issues at all. I got in and out without any problems at all.

    I'd also researched some of the changes around the information sharing and PCSC (preventing and combatting serious crime) by looking through some of the FOI requests.

    A few observations;

    The US border authorities still don't have routine access to the PNC, ACRO or any of the criminal records databases
    PCSC is designed to capture and distribute information relating to serious criminals in and around the EU who travel to the US, rather than UK citizens on the PNC
    The new immigration fingerprinting system performs print checks against a separate home office immigration print database, not prints that are held on the PNC - this is so the US can detect criminals who've flown from somewhere within the EU, before getting to the UK and boarding a plane to the US - it's designed to fill gaps basically.

    Unless you're a SERIOUS criminal, someone involved with terrorism, organised crime and have profile with the authorities (I'm sure you'd know if you were) rather than someone who got arrested for punching a bus shelter 20 years ago whilst drunk, I'm pretty sure you're good to just tick "no" on the ESTA

    If anyone is unsure or worried, I highly recommend ringing the unlock helpline, as there are a bunch of people on there who are very knowledgeable and will give you a good and accurate answer, they have a lot of experience of dealing with this -

    Contact theHelpline - theInfoHub by Unlock | for people with convictions and criminal recordstheInfoHub by Unlock | for people with convictions and criminal records
     
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  20. Reekydeeky

    Reekydeeky CrystalXXX

    Read through all of this thread and can't find the answer. Sorry if it's already been discussed :(.
    I have a Class A drug conviction for possession of ecstasy. I stupidly went the visa route and applied for DS-160.. Paid the fee. I have cancelled the interview and deleted the account. I applied for a ESTA after and it has been accepted..

    I know the DS-160 will now be on file..
    Will it flag up when i arrive in the states?

    Would it be a option to 'lose' my passport and get a new one and apply for a new ESTA or will the DS-160 still be on the new passport?

    Thanks!!
     
  21. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Spunky Slug

    You'll be fine.

    Doubly fine if you do 'lose' your passport.
     
  22. Travel bunny

    Travel bunny New Member

    So I have been reading this long thread as I am going through a similar thing with my boyfriend, we want to go to Las Vegas next year and have started the visa process with the us embassy! (So wish I had read this before!) I would be interested to know if anyone on here has been stopped entering the US or did everyone get through??

    It's too late now to stop as we attended the appointment yesterday and now awaiting further documents apco police certificate before they make the final decision!

    I'll be gutted if we can't go....
     
  23. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Spunky Slug

    Everyone got through, except those who didn't, but they can't reply as US prisons don't allow internet access.
     
  24. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Once you've started pricess, if you have a record, you're fucked. Looks like the better rebook for margate!
     
  25. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Just had to apply for an ESTA for first time in years. Mine went through fine, but my 8 yr old sin's was rejected. Seems i typed yes to a question I should have said no to and missed it when j checked application.

    I declared my son as a terrorist! Doh!

    Advice on internet and from official ESTA site is ambiguous, but I maybe able to reapply in 24hrs. Anyone had a similar experience? Atleast I've got 6 months before I travel so plenty of time to sort it out.
     
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  26. 2hats

    2hats

    That almost sounds like this story…

    'Terrorist' baby faces US embassy interview after error on visa form
     
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  27. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

  28. 2hats

    2hats

    According to the story they sorted it out and got a visa in the end, after a visit in person to the embassy.
     
  29. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Seems that isn't necessary. Got email back from US authorities asking for all son's details and seems they can fix it their end and I can reapply! No story in press required!
     
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  30. 1927

    1927 Funnier than he thinks he is.

    Son thinks it's hilarious tho!
     
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