Travel Cards, Zones and.. erm.. being naughty.
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Donna Ferentes said:
on the contrary, the only sensible approach would be to go into this fully expecting to get caught (and have excuses etc ready) but to write it off against the savings made.
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Fine, provided you don't mind getting caught, everybody looking at you while they take your details down. And the inspectors getting used to the sight of your face.Dubversion said:
Vixen said:
i didn't have the money for a fine and wasn't on the electoral roll. neither of these things will apply
Vixen said:
relevant how?
girasol
Addicted to handstands!
Donna Ferentes said:
The secret is not to get caught by the same people... Although that's a bit out of your hands, really...
Anyway, there aren't a lot of inspectors at rush hour, I didn't get caught during rush hour, so make sure you do the travelling when the trains are really packed!
I definitely wouldn’t attempt it with an Oyster. I think it is quite likely to be smart enough not to let you do it. But even if it was possible, if you got caught they’ve got a full record of all the times you’ve done it.
I don’t think there are many tube journeys from zone 2/3 to zone 2 which would normally cross zone 1 which you could still make without crossing zone 1.
- so if you got caught I don’t know if you could claim you’ve done it legitimately?
If you buy a weekly travelcard these days (possibly even a monthly one), you don’t need a photocard. So there is no way they can track it back to you, unless you gave them your name and address if you got caught.
I’d buy a paper travelcard from a rail station and give it a try.
I don’t think there are many tube journeys from zone 2/3 to zone 2 which would normally cross zone 1 which you could still make without crossing zone 1.
- so if you got caught I don’t know if you could claim you’ve done it legitimately?If you buy a weekly travelcard these days (possibly even a monthly one), you don’t need a photocard. So there is no way they can track it back to you, unless you gave them your name and address if you got caught.
I’d buy a paper travelcard from a rail station and give it a try.
Dubversion said:
They don't send the inspectors through the carriages half as much as they used to. Not even close. I've been pulled twice in the last two years and both times it was on the metropolitan line. That's because there's stations on that line without gates.
Their other trick is to get you when you pass between lines at major stations like Bond street or when you're entering a station. As you'll be entering a station in the right zone it won't be a problem. It's only if you get caught in zone 1 when you change lines or the unlikely event that an inspector comes along and, if you travel in rush hour, is even more unlikely.
To complete your plan I'd suggest having a permanent twenty quid note stuffed away if you do happen to get sprung. You can then play the embarrassed role and offer to pay immediately. This means they are more likely to be on your side in the situation and not start asking awkward questions involving your personal details. I wouldn't present them with your travel card and say you made a mistake. Just rummage around for your ticket and say you can't find it, be appologetic and offer straight away to pay.
I'd check with a single ticket first if this actually works. It'd be such an irony if you blew all that money on a monthly only to discover the contrary.
Good luck!
sleaterkinney
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I don't think the barriers would be that smart, but if he got inspected he would be screwed.beeboo said:I don’t think there are many tube journeys from zone 2/3 to zone 2 which would normally cross zone 1 which you could still make without crossing zone 1.
Good idea, if don't have the cash they have to take your details, you can always say the gates were open at your station and that was how you got on with no card.
Minnie_the_Minx
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Dubversion said:
Should be ashamed of yourself
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Donna Ferentes said:
Nonsense. I now feel paying train fares is ok coz it makes up for all the times I jumped them when I was younger(and still do on occasion). Still think I'm winning though, got away with half fare til I was 22
pootle
little moran
Achtung!
When buying a ticket for a journey that goes through, but not necessarily off at zone one, TFL assume you will go through zone 1, rather than the long way round, so this is always used as a basis, that they assume people will be going through, if you see what I mean.
I know someone who travelled from Zone 2 to 3, going through zone 1, and wasn't caught for months, using a monthly travel card. However, on the one occasion she DID get caught, TFL could somehow call up all the journeys she had made from a to b, via zone 1, using the info stored on the magnetic bit of an old paper travelcard, and she got hit with a massive fine and a day in court, and was done for all the times she fare dodged, because there was no way she could prove she HADN'T been through Zone 1.
Like everyone was has said, it'll be even more tricky with the big brother oyster card
Oh, and the Dub, the barriers are getting increasingly smarter. A certain boy we both know is currently working on the undergrounds oyster networks and their data mgmt and stuff that I don't really understand, cos I'm a girl..
When buying a ticket for a journey that goes through, but not necessarily off at zone one, TFL assume you will go through zone 1, rather than the long way round, so this is always used as a basis, that they assume people will be going through, if you see what I mean.
I know someone who travelled from Zone 2 to 3, going through zone 1, and wasn't caught for months, using a monthly travel card. However, on the one occasion she DID get caught, TFL could somehow call up all the journeys she had made from a to b, via zone 1, using the info stored on the magnetic bit of an old paper travelcard, and she got hit with a massive fine and a day in court, and was done for all the times she fare dodged, because there was no way she could prove she HADN'T been through Zone 1.
Like everyone was has said, it'll be even more tricky with the big brother oyster card
Oh, and the Dub, the barriers are getting increasingly smarter. A certain boy we both know is currently working on the undergrounds oyster networks and their data mgmt and stuff that I don't really understand, cos I'm a girl..
pootle said:TFL could somehow call up all the journeys she had made from a to b, via zone 1, using the info stored on the magnetic bit of an old paper travelcard, and she got hit with a massive fine and a day in court, and was done for all the times she fare dodged, because there was no way she could prove she HADN'T been through Zone 1.
This is an arse....
I used to use weekly travel cards so this wouldn;t be as big a drama but they've abolished them travelcards haven't they - you have to get them on Oyster now? You'd be compelled to buy a monthly to do the dodge and accrue all these journeys on it.
I'd pretend that I'd lost my ticket and not let them get their hands on my travelcard at all in that case
arse
pootle
little moran
PieEye said:I'd pretend that I'd lost my ticket and not let them get their hands on my travelcard at all in that case
That's exactly what you need to do. Thing about it, there's a reason why people needed photocards for weekly and longer tix...I remember your photocard number used to get written on the paper ticket, and they must have been making a note of it elsewhere, eh?
btw....shouldn't you two be humping (boxes)today, rather than faffing about on the intermaweb, or are you doing it all after school?
yeh, actually, i always planned on just claiming to have lost my daily and paying the fine rather than coughing up my zone 2/3 travelcard if busted. you confused me
pootle said:
after school. then the rest of mine next week
Oula
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Just got off at South Wimbledon. 5 plain clothed ticket inspectors. When I showed them my 2 and 3 travelcard they asked where I had come from. i said Brixton, they said they were checking all cards that did not have Zone 1 and run my (paper Monthly) travelcard through a little hand held scanner - then let me go on my way as I was telling the truth.
So, they can get you even at your destnation station and on a paper ticket. I guess a way to avoid this and to avaoid having a month worth of zone 1 dodging showing up would be to try to avoid putting your ticket though the automatic gates - go to the manned gates and claim it didn't go throuh or carry a big bag or something. then it wouldn't record where you got on.
So, they can get you even at your destnation station and on a paper ticket. I guess a way to avoid this and to avaoid having a month worth of zone 1 dodging showing up would be to try to avoid putting your ticket though the automatic gates - go to the manned gates and claim it didn't go throuh or carry a big bag or something. then it wouldn't record where you got on.
Ms T said:
for 45 quid a month? not really.
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