Toyko knifeman goes berserk: kills 7, injures 10

[gorski]

I made an effort towards stating my position quite clearly and unambiguously.

It is also backed up by contemporary studies, both Japanese and Western.

Constructive and a good start for a debate, I would have thought.

But too much for some - and then some...

Never mind the smilies.

Look at the content.

 

[gorski]

AS, you're a cowardly cunt! Either say what you have on the subject or just fuck off!

There. A direct challenge to your superior experience and knowledge of J.

The floor is yours.

 

[8ball]

Wipe the froth off your chin, luv.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

actully i genrally think when someone starts calling another a cowerd it's gone passed debate and entered food fight teritory

 

[gorski]

Well, I have had enough of their substantive insults, that idiotic innuendo or open attacks, never backed up by anything, just "it's all worthless" mantra, but never actually proving anything in any way or offering anything in terms of alternatives... How convenient.

My dead granny can debate like that!

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

don't make me knife you

 

[8ball]

Inscrutable knifing incoming!

 

[chico enrico]

Gorski.

You. Are. Mental.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

AS, you're a cowardly cunt! Either say what you have on the subject or just fuck off!
.

Ha ha, you managed to wait a whole two minutes before being angered by no return post.

Now calm down, I know you love reading so if you want to know what I think just go back and read my other posts. In summary, I don't aggree in full with what you have read in your sociolgy text books and regurgiteted about modern Japan. Of course any history howeber old can affect contempriy culture in some way but if you spent a week in modern Japan you would see much of what is written about is myth.
I also belive only a fool can dismiss personal experince/accounts, and take the writtne word of others (incudeing my own) as unquestionable.

Futhermore, I firmly believe a man who is shouting "deabte with me you cunt" is beyond debating with, (and anyway I wasn't in this for some sociolgy study paper debate, not that you have actulally been debating anything yourself).

This is a thread about the recent Tokyo knife murders. Start a thread where your rambling is relivent and debate yourself stupid.

Oh and . . .

Well, I have had enough of their substantive insults, that idiotic innuendo or open attacks, never backed up by anything, just "it's all worthless" mantra,

. . . . .Er, I think you will find it was you, not I who repeated "it's all worthless", over and over again.
You back up your posts by saying the books you read are infallible as they are written by great thinkers, and that your Japanese acquaintances are "laughing their heads off".
You are not going to make the collage debating team with skills like that now are you.

 

[gorski]

Yayks. Mental indeed. Time to leave the kiddies to posture some more...

Who do you fink you're kiddin' Mr. 'itler...

 

[gorski]

Btw, I dare you to say anything meaningful or even anything that you may "think" on the subject...

Aaaahhh, and do have a look at those Japanese social scientists and thinkers...

You may be rather unpleasantly surprised just how "Western" they are...

Worthless Marx's arselickers, almost all of them...

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Three minutes this time, you are getting better.

You may be rather unpleasantly surprised just how "Western" they are...

Crikey, I told you to go back and read what I (and others) had written but you have obviously failed yet again.
For a being of supreme intellect who loves his books you are rather lacking somewhat in the ability to digest the written word.

When did anyone say the Japanese thought any different to westerners? If anything I have been saying in many ways the Japanese lifestyle not unlike our own.
If you are going to pass your midterms you will have to learn to digest information correctly instead of simply cutting and pasting from the internet.

 

[gorski]

You really don't get it: they are critically minded and do take the whole of Japan into consideration, unlike you who come across like a bloody apologist for SOME elements of the Japanese reality [based on your "anecdotal evidence", i.e. personal experience alone] and trying to sell those isolated elements as the whole of Japanese "experience"...

[Yayks, indeed...]

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

You really don't get it: they are critically minded and do take the whole of Japan into consideration, unlike you who come across like a bloody apologist for SOME elements of the Japanese reality [based on your "anecdotal evidence", i.e. personal experience alone] and trying to sell those isolated elements as the whole of Japanese "experience"...

[Yayks, indeed...]

Again I ask you to read the previous posts. I am not going on personal experience alone, though I would consider my own research and interviews in that category. I had to study Japan and it's culture in my job for nearly a year, I am taking into account all of the history and modern culture I read up on but I am adding to that being immersed in the country and knowing, quite intimately in the case of my wife, many japanese from all over the islands. As I have mentioned before, a lot of what I have read about the Japan, especially the contemporary social and culture aspects, have proved to be bend modern day realities fit the purpose of the author (They tend to fit into neat boxes about the atom bomb or feudal history etc).
No, I have not read you college text books but from your vague teen pseudo intellectual spouting it sounds very much like more of the same sociology/psychology babblings that I despised in my collage days.

Please read the previous posts, and again, as I mentioned before, do not simply site the books you have read authors as the greatest critical minds 'therefore they are correct and you are wrong'.
It is not debate you seek, it is to cut and paste quotes and have everyone applaud your genius.
Sadly because you are obviously without the intellect of the pedestal you have so boldly placed yourself onto, I fear you shall never be satisfied.

How absurd it would be to not include your own experience (do you never interview people, visit places?) when drawing a conclusion if it is available.
That would be like hiring someone because of what they have written in their CV without seeing them. Sending a film crew to a location without visiting it. Doing a building survey simply from records. Thinking an album is good because you read it was the best album ever in Q.

You are a fool.

 

[gorski]

Take those idiotic teenage blinkers off, you emotive twat, learn some manners and then learn to read with understanding, beyond your present limitations! Look at the links I provided - even the Japanese can!

 

[rutabowa]

Take those idiotic teenage blinkers off, you emotive twat, learn some manners and then learn to read with understanding, beyond your present limitations! Look at the links I provided - even the Japanese can!

I have changed my mind, I fink we shuld all lern to be as open-minded and clevuh as vis guy hea.

 

[gorski]

[My notes to the original post: A LIE!!!]You only stated that it was 'universal' after the post you made about alienation blah blah blah. If it's universal how is it relevant in a thread about what's happening in Japan and how were we supposed to guess?

[ANTI_INTELLECTUALISM!!!] And why is personal experience cobblers? Is your experience of the UK irrelevant because it's not written about in your sociological and philosophical books?
Guess what, people only write about sociological and philosophical bullshit in books about sociological and philosophical bullshit. They have to fill them with something.

[THIS REALLY IS COBBLERS, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT COMES FROM AN ALLEGED SOCIAL SCIENTIST!!!] What is the alienation you are banging on about anyway?

PS

[AN IDIOCY!!!] You sound like a bit of a nobX10. Say hello to your Japanese acquaintances/friends for me.

This is how it really started: from lies to anti-intellectualism [from an alleged social scientist, even!] and insults of the lowliest kind...

 

[gorski]

PS I only just read this.

Ha ha ha, This is such a load of shit. Your books are not only soooo out of date, they are painting everything/one with such a broad brush. Like I said, the people who write those books have got to make up some sort of bullshit I suppose. I guess it would be pretty boring to read about people who sometimes have slightly longer hours than us 'sometimes' and 'sometimes' eat lot's of food communally while they get pissed.

And then this, after I simply stated my position re. where it all may come from in a Japanese variety of alienation. Whereas he said nothing of the kind. And still hasn't. That's cowardly and in a way a snide way of dealing with stuff of this sort...

 

[chico enrico]

I am haev the right. It is I am in books the raeding. And a coward and custardly fool are yuo. Me a student , having 17 years, know evreythning espcailly abuot Japane where I haev nevar been, but I rede many teh books on.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

My Manners? Have you read even your own posts? I think you will find you are the only person who has called anyone a "cunt" or told someone to "fuck off". What a fabulous academic mind you must have for such advanced retotic. Have a look back, they could win the arrogant, ignorant ill informed and rude gold medals for England.

I'm asking you to simply read back over what other people have written and take it in before making misinformed comments back about things that haven't even been implied let alone said. It's that simple.
You talk of others limitations and yet you limit yourself to only accepting certain words in certain books. You're nuts. Worst thinker ever. By your own rules you can't even use your own thoughts and experience to draw conclusions.

[based on your "anecdotal evidence", i.e. personal experience alone]

Oh yes and while we are at it personal experience is not anecdotal evidence, it's first hand, how can you own experience be second hand you complete duffus.

 

[rutabowa]

you complete duffus.

"dufus" i think.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

This is how it really started: from lies to anti-intellectualism [from an alleged social scientist, even!] and insults of the lowliest kind...

What a twat you are. I never said I was a social scientist did I?
And what about all the extra shit you have added to my quotes?

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

"dufus" i think.

Oh the shame.

 

[chico enrico]

My Manners? Have you read even your own posts? I think you will find you are the only person who has called anyone a "cunt" or told someone to "fuck off". What a fabulous academic mind you must have for such advanced retotic.

mmmm...i suspect he's one of those 'polytechnic' students. I understand that type of discourse is all the rage in such establishments.