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Towards the UK republic - against the 2012 jubilee

More democracy rather than less - are you afraid of the people?
In what sense would a republic be "more democratic"? I mean in real, concrete terms.

And while we're on the subject, exactly what do you intend to do to bring about this glorious liberal republic?
 
More democracy rather than less perhaps, what about your cultural life improved by free access to land and palaces which you didn't have now?

Hahahahaha! You really think that the monarchy being abolished would lead to more democracy? More elections, maybe, for leaders that no-one wants or cares about. And there is no way in the world that we'd get free access to any of the Royal lands or palaces - even if they end up being owned by the state (which isn't guaranteed), I'd bet a million quid that the public would be kept out just as much as now.

British Republicans. They're almost sweet, really.
 
Hahahahaha! You really think that the monarchy being abolished would lead to more democracy? More elections, maybe, for leaders that no-one wants or cares about. And there is no way in the world that we'd get free access to any of the Royal lands or palaces - even if they end up being owned by the state (which isn't guaranteed), I'd bet a million quid that the public would be kept out just as much as now.

British Republicans. They're almost sweet, really.

No wonder you're skint!
 
So we've discovered that living under a 'republican democracy' we wouldn't be any better off than we are now. Monarchy or no monarchy.

So what next?
 
More democracy rather than less perhaps, what about your cultural life improved by free access to land and palaces which you didn't have now?

The current arrangements in terms of royal family and heriditary principle discredit the existing political settlement but not that many people seem to give much of a fuck about that.

Nice bit of land around Buckingham Palace with the potential of linking Hyde Park with Green Park and St. James Park. Some talk of a waterway linking them all at one point. Granted, that would be an improvement to the environment of a small part of central London but my cultural life would still be impeded by the fact that I have to sell my labour to some cunt for a wage. And being able to tread in Michael Fagin's footsteps round the palace would probably soon lose it's appeal.
 
Although I agree things would not change much if the monarchy were abolished and that they have no real power, it would be nice to free up the £37 million of taxpayer's money that goes to them.
 
So we've discovered that living under a 'republican democracy' we wouldn't be any better off than we are now. Monarchy or no monarchy.

So what next?

But this is precisely the problem with ultra leftism... You see things in B/w which is completly stupid, you have no sense of movement and protest at all. Things do become possible through the process of struggle which are not possible before, and the process of struggle through challenging the foundation of the capitalist state in the UK has far more potential as a struggle because of the contradictions it throws up (the issues/different social groups etc) than most struggles.
 
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